May 29, 2007

Mountain View – Surenos gang uses blue

Voice Mountain View Voice: Turning off gang infatuation: Intervention starts in middle school with special counselors (May 25, 2007)
The colors and paraphernalia of local gangs are showing up more frequently in local middle schools, a phenomenon that worries officials of the Mountain View Whisman school district. To combat the growing problem, a team of special counselors has been hired to intervene with students and help them steer clear of gang activity.

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There’s a folded blue bandanna a student wore in his pocket, signifying the Surenos gang, and several drawings another student made on binder paper, depicting gang members, weapons and gang logos.

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He recalled a meeting last week with the parents of a 12-year-old girl. The parents were worried that her erratic behavior was a sign of drug use and other correlating behavior. Garcia was able to locate her Myspace Web page, where a picture of her boyfriend was prominently displayed.

“He’s a well known Sureno,” Garcia said. “Her parents were completely shocked. And while she isn’t a Sureno herself yet, we knew she was associating with them. And that’s where it starts.”

Parents need to be wary and watchful, both men agreed.

Garcia and Noriega regularly hang out around students both on campus and off. The two men will walk around neighborhoods like Latham Street and California Avenue, known gang territories, looking for familiar faces to talk to.

Or in Realtor speak: “GREAT NEIGHBORHOOD ORGANIZATIONS!”

Meanwhile here are the median prices in Mountain View, and the dollar per square foot:

DQNews – San Jose Mercury News Weekly Zip Code Chart
Mountain View 94040 $880,000 41.7% $641 32 88.2%
Mountain View 94041 $850,000 2.1% $685 9 28.6%
Mountain View 94043 $700,000 6.6% $521 29 -32.6%

Just think – without these gang problems, I bet $1000 per square foot would be the norm.

Comments (85) -- Posted by: burbed @ 5:51 am

85 Responses to “Mountain View – Surenos gang uses blue”

  1. waiting_for_the_fall Says:

    She’s only 12 years old and her parents let her have a boyfriend? Did they let her start dating at 10?

  2. i8thekittypurr Says:

    “The two men will walk around neighborhoods like Latham Street and California Avenue, known gang territories, looking for familiar faces to talk to.”
    ________________________
    I lived around here 10 years ago with my brother–right out of college, rented a sh*thole apartment—it was little Michoacan back then, I hate to think what it’s like now–

    Maybe those parents need to rent “American Me”
    :)

  3. Dest Says:

    aye foo 4real it is all about da South Side. SUR13 right thurr all tha ways. gotta stay true 2 dat blue.

    if u claim red… bang bang bang 13 bullets 2 da head. fuck them chapetes they ain’t cool ese’s.

  4. sur 13 Says:

    its all abou 13 fuck norkakas bitches think theyre hard actin like mayates sur 13 rifando

  5. scrap killa Says:

    hey fuk scrapas…am from west side redwood city fuk mountain view and v.m.v nortenos u fuking bitches…..187 v.m.v and all scrapas….WEST SIDE NORTENOS REDWOOD CITY 187 CXLS,BLS,HLS,LST,HSB, AND ALL SCRAPS IN E.P.A AND MADERA ROJA….NORTE MUDAFUKAS WATCH OUT SCRAPAS B4 U BITE DA DUST BITCHES….U FUKING BORDER HOPPING FRUITS…GO BAK AND GET UR GREEN CARD…PENDEJOS!

  6. .:LiL DR3AM3R:. Says:

    “hey fuk scrapas…am from west side redwood city fuk mountain view and v.m.v nortenos u fuking bitches…..187 v.m.v and all scrapas….WEST SIDE NORTENOS REDWOOD CITY 187 CXLS,BLS,HLS,LST,HSB, AND ALL SCRAPS IN E.P.A AND MADERA ROJA….NORTE MUDAFUKAS WATCH OUT SCRAPAS B4 U BITE DA DUST BITCHES….U FUKING BORDER HOPPING FRUITS…GO BAK AND GET UR GREEN CARD…PENDEJOS!”

    LMA0 Y0U A W3AK ASS x3T BAxG3R.

  7. Bob @ Century21 Says:

    Dest, sur, scrap killa, and Lil Dr3am3r

    Now is the time to buy! Mortgage rates are close to historic lows. Give me a call immediately for my professional opinion of the local market. With all that drug money you should be able to find a bitchin’ pad yo (I am cool with your slang ese).

    Don’t delay, call right away! 1-800-Homes-4-Eses.

  8. Bob @ Century21 Says:

    And remember, you can’t have the West without the ES. Eastsiiiiide!

  9. Richard Pryor Says:

    Holy Shit! These are the funniest comments evar!

  10. Jim Beam Says:

    You uneducated losers (gang bangers) above try to learn how to write proper english FIRST, if you want any respect from people. Otherwise, you’re just a bunch of losers who will be on welfare, squirting out kids at 19, and being a basic DRAG on socitey in 5 – 10 years.

    Way to go LOSERS !

  11. Bob @ Century21 Says:

    Jim Beam

    Don’t hate on those players. They’re just keepin it real yo. We need all of their kids to keep the perpetual real estate machine going. Prices only go one direction! And you know which way that is baby, up, up, up and awayyyyyy!!! I strongly advise you to buy now, or you will be priced out forever.

  12. Jimbo Says:

    Mountain View is one of the safest cities of its size in the country. If you are intimidated by these poser 14 year old gangsters, you only have yourself to blame.

  13. B.LOCZ:: VxMxV Says:

    EVERYBODY KNOW DIZ IZ PURO NORTE YOU FAGGOTZ!! ALL YOU PINCHE SKRAPS TALKIN DAT LEVA SHIT!!! YA ALL PUSSIES!! AND TOO YOU FUKIN RACIST ASS PIGS….FUCK YOU TOO………NORTE RUNNIN DIZ SHIT….STEP ASIDE SKRAPAZ:: :: :: :: B.LOCZ .V4RRIO MOUNT4IN VIEW::

    X-I-VICIOUS!!

  14. Bob @ Century21 Says:

    Homeboy B.Locz:

    I had no idea this is puro norte. I’ll try not to talk any leva shit either. I’m just keepin it real yo, no what I’m sayin ese? Did I tell you rates are at historic lows? I have an excellent condo in Redwood City I could get you into, with you’re excellent credit history I’m sure I could get that rate down to 6.5%. That should leave plenty of cashflow for your pimpin. As the old saying goes “pimpin ain’t easy”, right homes?

    Don’t delay, call right away!
    1-800-Homes-4-eses.

    Bob

  15. huh? Says:

    F-ing hilarious!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  16. Ortho Says:

    OMG Bob@Cent 21 you say the funny words!. This would make an excellent Saturday Night Live bit.

  17. F00SKA Says:

    1Z ALL B0UT DA S0UTH S1D3 FUCK THA R3ST W3 R0LL W1D DA B3ST S.T.F.S.S.C.A.M B1TCH3z SUR 13 H0LM3z FUCK A N0RTHPUT0 TH1S 1S A SUR3N0S W0RLD 3S3!!!

  18. Loko Says:

    Fuck norte, all you little FAGGOTS dont even suppose to talk smack, you bitches are cool with mayates, you cant handle Surenos by yourselves.

  19. ex norte Says:

    i agree with loko, i use to b a norteno, i thought nortenos use to b down for da red, one day some surenos came up 2 me and my homies, i knew we had beef, 13 were on our hood, my homies were scared and didnt do nothing, but i did , i got beat up. i got pissed at my homies, i thought they were down. now im a Sureno from the northside.

  20. Froch Says:

    Nobody should be fooled — Surenos suck on the Nortenos meat-burritos. Nortenos like to put enchiladas in their butts. These guys are all sausage slingers. And they both listen to circus music.

  21. Zapata Says:

    Why in the world do you want to be in a gang for? dont you want to have life ?

  22. valley Says:

    theres actually some white folks that are cool with Surenos.well da ones that live in our neighboorhood : )

  23. wera13 Says:

    FUCK NORTACOS IT ALL ABOUT DAT BIG SOUTHSIDE 13 ALL THOSE LIL PUNK ASS CHAPATES BE RUNNING AWAY FROM US SURENOS EVERYDAY ALL DAY FUKEN LIL BITCH IMA SCRAP AND PROUD OF THAT JUST MEAN I CAN GET DOWN FOR MY SHIT U LIL BUSTER BITCHS MEAN U A LIL BITCH BAK UP UR SHIT PURO SOUTHSIDE

  24. ex norteno Says:

    like i said im a sureno i now live in Long Beach CA, in South cali, i got jumped in but for 30 sec for being a norte,im happy now, i got homies that bak me up,i have a lady surena.im da first sureno to be born in da norte

  25. nortecool Says:

    fuck u bitch,pinche traidor

  26. WestSideSJ13 Says:

    dats wat up essay fuk dem fuk nortenos! shit uou gotta bang dat blue to be true. reds 4 bitches anywayz.

  27. .LIL LOCO:. Says:

    FUCK ALL U CHAPS U ALL PUSSYS IM FROM H.M.B AND WE REP THE 13 FUCK REDWOODS PUSSYS MEDIA LUNA SURENOS P.V X3

  28. .LIL LOCO:. Says:

    FUCK ALL U CHAPS U ALL PUSSYS IM FROM H.M.B AND WE REP THE 13 FUCK REDWOODS PUSSYS MEDIA LUNA SURENOS P.V X3

  29. mighty x4 Says:

    this is norte x4 all day everyday fukk all u scrapas south side northerners sssj bitches come to my side and ull get put 6 feet under in the quickness bitch

  30. BIG SUR Says:

    FUCK NORTE DEY ALL A BUNCH OF USED TAMPONS..PURO SUR SIDE RIDERS X3

  31. Zulleyma Says:

    Man wut da fuk im 4rm strt3 up D3troit Sur Luv stay wit da blu3 3z3s no sab3n ni wtf u talkin bout 13 luv 3s3

  32. L4_Haha Says:

    vschcbxzb bxzjb jbcjvbbcjv is all i Fukin hur bcvjbxvnjbvZCJZXBKMMX

  33. 1-W1CK3D-OSO-3 Says:

    1TS ALL ABOUT SUR 13 FUCK TH3 R3ST S.S.W R3PP1XG FOR MY HOM13S AXD BAXG1XG 2 TH3 FULL3ST 187 OX TH3S3 FUCK1XG FAGG3TS DAT AR3 HAT31XG AXD TALK1XG TH3R3 SH1T FUCK1XG CHAPS D1CK SUCK1XG PUXKS MUCH LOV3 2 ALL TH3 SUR3XOS DAT B3 R3PP1XG DAT SUR AXD FUCK U WH1T3 ASSHOL3S U B1TCH3S DOXT KXO3 SH1T ABOUT GAXGS

  34. Azteca Says:

    h3y wutz up to my raza soy el azteca de san anto tx me gusta el color rojo pero la mayoria de mis amigos son surenos y maras salvatrucha 13 yo no me voy por el color y me gustaria ser sureno o mara salvatrucha fuck all haterz.

  35. Southside Boss Says:

    Fuck Norcacas

  36. Lil' Clown Says:

    I also use 2 be a Norteno. I would just kick back with them u know like all of them do. Intill i found out that Woodie(norteno raper)was not even MEXIAN. i waz like WTF.Fuck this shit. Slowly just started sportin blue, fucked up 2 busters in front of the Surenos, and got excepted and been gang bangin fuckin up puto Norcacas ever since

  37. Lil' G Says:

    U spelled Mexican wrong but yeal its all about the Southside Sur 13 ANd yeal Fuck Norcacas

  38. Callejero Says:

    Fuck Nortenos Smoke them lenos ats all ’bout hipowered Surnos

  39. Crazy Malo Says:

    Its the Southside and we takin over KINGS COUNTY Surenos fucked up all the Bitch ass Nortenos in Hanford CA. ran those bitches off those little bitches took of to Lemoore CA. Now Surenos run the streets of Hanford CA. we cumin up quick chapetes Don’t look back Norcacas there could be a malo glock staring at ur Puta faces bitches o yeal watch out Stratford CA. cause HANFORD CA. is lookin for u all better be scared chapetes
    Soy Hombre Chingon Sureno Cabrone y me vale la
    Sur 13 asta la muerte
    Fuck the rojo putas me los cojo -Street Gang of the Eastside Dukez

  40. lil jay jay Says:

    ITS ALL ABOUT THAT SUR 13 FUCK ALL TH3 NORT3NOS, BLOODZ, CRIPS, LATIN KNIGHTS, MS 13!!
    THIS IS WAT IT IS!!!
    SURENA FOR LIF3!!!
    (S.P.V X3)
    ALL ABOUT THAT SUR SID3!!
    FUCK ALL TH3 HAT3RS!

  41. lil_surena Says:

    we all rule the streets of Hanford CA.
    SUERNA for life bitchez

  42. sick & tired Says:

    this is all sick and disgraceful i thought “gangs” were meant to protect their families and friends in prison and out of prison now all of you have lost that meaning killing innocent people “just cuz” this all bullshit the US was safer under the rule of the mob than punks that don’t have value for their lives or others. One question- Why R U targeting innocent people that aren’t rivals/gang affliated?

  43. E.S.P_L.PX3GANG Says:

    QVOS TO ALL THE SURENOS UPSTATE BANGING ON THEM BUSTER FAGS TO ALL U SURENOS WHO USED TO B NORTENOS FUCK U U LEVA MOTHERFUCKERS GIVING US SURENOS IN SNORTE CALI A BAD NAME IF UR A SURENO THATS BY HONOR NOT BY CHOICE FOR BEING MEXICAN MS-13 HAHHAH FUCK THEM LA EME WILL TAKE THEM OUT IM FROM EASTSIDE PETALUMA RUN WIT LA PRIMERA GANG 707 IS ALL OURS ESE FUCK CHAPETES AND FAKE SURENOS 187 ON ALL YALL THERES ALOT OF SURENOS MOVING UP NORTH FROM L.A WATCHOUT IN 3 YEARS CALIFAS WILL BE OURS SUR X3 POR VIDA FUCK LEVAS AND FAKES

  44. big lokote jr Says:

    fuck all chaps get on my fuckin level ese fuck ur life fuck ur hood fuck leva from sa1 jos3 to L.A. keep it sur up fuck a busta:.

  45. norteno Says:

    ALL BOUT THEE INZANE GANG BANG RED RAGGIN NORTENO GANG REPPIN BIG TIME SUNNYVALE NORTHERN CALI4NIA GRANDE 1408 1 CAUSE 1 BOSS CAPPIN SURRATAS 1 BY 1 SENDING THEM BACK TO SEWRLAND IN BOBYBAGS SHAAA…4RM PELICAN BAY 2 THA 559 4RM THA BAY 2 THA VALLEY 4RM THA 619 2 THA 209 WASHINTONE,OREGON,ATLANTA,CHI-TOWN AND EVERYWHERE ELSE STANDIN ON THA TOP NORTE UP SURRATAS 6 FEET IN2 THA GROUND LEAVING THEM BLEEDIN RED FROM THA BULLET HOLE IN THA HEAD DEAD REST IN PISS NORTE CATORCE UNO CUANTRO TILL THA CASKET DROPS UNITOS KEEP ON BLEEDIN TO THA LEFT HAND SIDE SPORT THAT RED TILL WE DIE ALRATO

  46. sonarrat Says:

    Burbed,

    Could you please close this thread to new comments? We don’t have bangers here in the Real Bay Area. :D

  47. Enough Estater Says:

    LOL. Somebody might actually take offense if they could actually read it.

  48. burbed Says:

    @sonarrat – don’t tell anyone, but I find this thread fascinating. I feel like I need an enigma device to read it.

  49. anon Says:

    Burbed,

    I am curious – a week or so ago, you got on me for using a curse word on your board. This thread is full of cursing and people talking crap yet you allow it to continue.

    What gives?

  50. SAN FRAN X4 Says:

    Fuck all the mujado scrapas,your all cowards,can’t fight scared to go one on one,got to be three or four of you to do anything cause your all scared bitches,come to the Mission or Excelsior n see what we got for all u ratas,I love beating up and checking all u scared bitches,I check u cowards and u deny your ratas but I love the scared look on your faces when I check you bitches,the red will spread,the flame is number 1 in this game!

  51. Marty McFly Says:

    LOL. English and education are wonderful things.

  52. nomadic Says:

    This is America! Why learn English?
    ;-)

  53. anon Says:

    Yes, just speak your native tongue. We’ll use the taxpayer’s money to cater to you.

  54. MRxLAYLOW4 Says:

    much luv N re$pect to my true $oldado$ from northern cali, central cali, ea$t basy, west bay, $outh bay all NORTE CALIFAS fuck all these fake ass kukaracha$will $tomp on all u faggets, these is EA$T $IDE MARA4ce REDWOOD CITY RIDAZ fuck these puto$ keep trwoing that red flag too the fullest N we all know all scrap r a bunch of gay homies

  55. MRxLAYLOW4 Says:

    N too all those putos that couldn`t stay solid for that norte chingen a su madre fucking followers theres nortenos nation wide even in parts of mexico so fuck you putos we dont need kukarachas on our side northern pride too the fullest

  56. VARRIO $TRAFAS BPN 4 VIDA Says:

    Its the Southside and we takin over KINGS COUNTY Surenos fucked up all the Bitch ass Nortenos in Hanford CA. ran those bitches off those little bitches took of to Lemoore CA. Now Surenos run the streets of Hanford CA. we cumin up quick chapetes Don’t look back Norcacas there could be a malo glock staring at ur Puta faces bitches o yeal watch out Stratford CA. cause HANFORD CA. is lookin for u all better be scared chapetes
    Soy Hombre Chingon Sureno Cabrone y me vale la
    Sur 13 asta la muerte
    Fuck the rojo putas me los cojo -Street Gang of the Eastside Dukez

    homie fuk the east side dukez we had one of you VAtos livin in strafas a year ago his name was mennito we went knockin at his pad ready to blow his brains out puto didn’t even come out so to all you little trampas ya’ll best watch your bak ene cause these aint no fuken jokes ya’ll rats get your asses punked dayly by the southside locs so fuk you and the V$T’z CAMMILO 187 on vst,ssc,east side dukez varrio strafas bpn $K ALL DAY EVERYDAY

  57. Nomadic Says:

    Burned, how’s that Enigma device coming along?

  58. SUR3N!TA Says:

    FUCK ALL THE NORPUTAS!! BITCHES!!! LAS HYNAS DE SUR 13 ARE BETTER THEN NORPUTAS!!! I AM A SURENA AND SO WUT!! FUCK LUISA!! PINCHE NORTENA!! TE VOY A PARTIR LA MADRE!!!

  59. btl southside lokes gang Says:

    BTL southside lokes gang..559 all over fresno county …..Braking The Law….Being The lokust….Burrel Town Lokes… Burning Trees Like crazy….BTL SOUTHSIDE LOKOTES GANG……..Fuk the 14 homeboy subtract it by one dis is lil joker nd I’m loaded with a gun…fuk my enemies I’ll make dem rest in peace burn der bodies nd leave dem deseased cus dats why I do kill anybody dats acting a fool …fuk a D.O.G. You know who I be da one dat will take you down 2 da cemetery…fuk a mutt ese I’ll say it again BTL southside I’m a straight mexican…so if you wana unleash da beast nd be deseased den ur life will be decreased no guarantees…nd if I have 2 live my life behind bars nd a fence den I’ll have 2 leave ur body tense nd killl you with no hesitance…dis makes no sense but clean up da mess nd smoke up da bomb nd stress from north to south ..east or west al you bitches no dat the south is da best so get these bullets 2 ur mathafukin chest…..

  60. Alex Says:

    where’s da redhead mexican hoes? i need a sammich, yo!

  61. centrovallero13 Says:

    fuck all you chaps..nothing but a bunch of panochas that only act hard wit ther homies…hahaha you putos get tatts just for the fuck of it,not knowing that it means honor and that you earn your stipes and yet i see you lames getting punked by a sureno hahahaha weak ass bitches

  62. Sanjonera408 Says:

    Fuck all chapetes they aint shyt think they hard because they were red fuck that chapulines puro Sur 13 fuck all busters most of you are fucken wetback so yuh just hatin motherfuckers disgrace to our raza

  63. sonarrat Says:

    we need to nuke this thread. gang warfare getting into our RBA blog.

  64. nomadic Says:

    No kidding. The comments should be turned off for this thread.

  65. SEA Says:

    “they aint shyt think they hard because they were red”

    Where else in the RBA would you get such fine prose?

  66. Lycanthropy Says:

    Online gang banging is for true soldiers. What a waste

  67. ThE pArTy Animal Says:

    Yo Waddup dey call me SMILEY/ EL JOKER FUCKERZ! I REP DAT SOUTHSIDE KING KALI KALIFAZ and I take SURENO DICK UP MY FAT HAIRY ASS! but I am Shizophrenic so listen up, my other side is REPPIN THAT NORCALI SALINAS X4 and i stick needles in my dick and have my ese’ nortenos lick my asshole to clean out my shit if yaknowwhatimsayin! Thats right nor14 and sur 14, same person. SO WADDUP, IMA UNLEASH MY dick on this threat and skit on everybody nortes cuz i hate them (but i love them), scrapaz cuz i hate them but i love them too. and everybody else BITCHEZ!

  68. LILMoreno Says:

    PURO BROWN PRIDE DO OR DIE PERRAS!!! FUK A CHAPETE SOUTHSIDE CONTROLA FROM L.A 2 THE BAY ESE… CKICK CKICK BANG! BANG!!! FUK A CHAPETE…..

  69. moreno aka cuco Says:

    I grew up in MONTAÑA VISTA SUREÑOS GANG represntin the sur did my time”life n C.Y.A.”,now I’m at mexico still with the sur.Can’t go back for two strikes that I got,so f*** it, it’s all in my hood can’t stop won’t stop keep it up POR LA CAUSA…

  70. madhaus Says:

    Okay, I’m turning comments off for this post. This page seems to attract the most fascinating people, if by “fascinating” I really mean “has rather colorful language but uninterested in real estate indicia.”

    Over and out.

  71. SAN JONERO Says:

    LOL DID YOU TURN OFF THE COMMENTS? SOME OF THESE CLOWNS ARE JUST NETBANGERS! THEY TELL THE LAMEST STORIES EVER AND I BET THEY’RE PROUD OF IT. I USED TO DO ALL KIND OF DUMB CRAP, BUT AT LEAST I STAY TRUE TO MY SIDE AND NOW I’M DOING BETTER THAN EVER NOT GETTING INTO TROUBLE. I GOT ME A JOB, GOOD CREDIT AND I’M READY TO DO THE REAL ESTATE ESE!

  72. SEA Says:

    He’s keepin’ the RBA alive…

  73. nomadic Says:

    …and bustin’ through the “turned off comments.” lol

  74. madhaus Says:

    I tried turning off the comments, but it seriously messed up the way this post displayed. Plus burbed told me this is the best comment thread on the site, shaming me into turning them back on.

  75. Black Mafia Says:

    The Norcraps are little sissies. These Surenos are chasing them out of town daily.

    They are scared and whine like females when the Surenos show strength.

    The Surenos own the state of California. And the Norte part is turning blue as we speak.

    Norcraps = wannebee jealous boys

  76. MS 13 Says:

    NORHOMOS= Good little slaves that bow down to the blue.

  77. SURENO SUPREME Says:

    RED = USED TAMPEX COLORS

    NORCACAS= WALKING USED TAMPONS

    N0RHOMOS

    NORPOOPOO

    NORPUTO

    NORPEEPEE’S

    SAN JOSE IS SURENO COUNTRY!!!!!!

  78. MR. INDIO Says:

    I used to bang now I live in nicaragua but will ALLWAYS BE DOWN FOR THE BIG SUR 13 punk ass busters we run central america too.

  79. MR. INDIO Says:

    ONCE AGAIN ITS THE BIG BAD SURENOS RUNNING THINGS THE REAL CXLS IS COMING BACK SO WATCH OUT YOU BUSTERS REDWOOD CITY’S FINEST CXLS13

  80. Lyka Says:

    Parents should watch out their teen or young adults. They should guide them and teach them the reality in life.

  81. F14 Says:

    These Norwiggers are slaves to us Bulldogs in Fresno.

    They shine our shoes.

  82. LK Says:

    THE Nortomatoes worship myates.

  83. Chitown Purity Says:

    These Nortenos worship and talk black and wear an Asian style hair do. They worship a city (San Francisco) That is the gay capital of the world. Chicago is authentic and has a history of authentic Mafia and Gangs(Capone) Even some of our suburbs are stronger than your cities. San Francisco has a history of men getting married. You Tomatoes wouldn’t last one month in the CHI.

  84. LK Says:

    Please do come to the Chi wearing your Tomato San Francisco 49ers jersey, see how long it lasts before it gets burned. You Tomatoes are the lamest, you don’t represent ant true part of the Hispanic pie.

  85. Fresno Says:

    Whoretenos will be extinct very soon, they serve blacks in jail and some even give them oral, you are cut and exempt from The Latin Pie.


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