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		<title>By: Carol</title>
		<link>http://www.burbed.com/2007/11/14/counterargument-nj-is-more-expensive/#comment-2965</link>
		<dc:creator>Carol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 04:28:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great job and adventure. I will move back to NJ. I have a house on the shore to go back to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great job and adventure. I will move back to NJ. I have a house on the shore to go back to.</p>
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		<title>By: burbed</title>
		<link>http://www.burbed.com/2007/11/14/counterargument-nj-is-more-expensive/#comment-2964</link>
		<dc:creator>burbed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 04:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So why&#039;d you move here?

Let me guess: Because it&#039;s the place where everyone wants to move to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So why&#8217;d you move here?</p>
<p>Let me guess: Because it&#8217;s the place where everyone wants to move to.</p>
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		<title>By: Carol</title>
		<link>http://www.burbed.com/2007/11/14/counterargument-nj-is-more-expensive/#comment-2963</link>
		<dc:creator>Carol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 01:54:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,
I am moving from a 2400sq ft 9 room - 3 bedroom split level home on a wooded lot in a blue ribbon school district to the East Bay.

The house I am selling is 35 minutes by car to midtown Manhattan when there is no traffic (weekends) and 1 hour and 15 minutes by NJ Transit train when I went to work. There are 3 shopping malls within 20 minutes, the regional public theater within 10 minutes, South Mountain Reservation Parkland within 5 minutes and several movie theaters within 10 minutes. The Jersey shore is less than an hour away.
The price for my house? $540,000.
Taxes on said house - $8000.

Lets compare what I am looking at in the East Bay, ostensibly Berkeley, Piedmont/Montclair, Albany. First of all $540 buys a dump with 2 small bedrooms if I am lucky and no land. For something reasonably close (and there are not alot of reasonably close homes), I am looking at homes at or slightly above $1mm. Given taxes of 1.3% that&#039;s about $13,000.

Is NJ cheaper? You bet.
-c</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,<br />
I am moving from a 2400sq ft 9 room &#8211; 3 bedroom split level home on a wooded lot in a blue ribbon school district to the East Bay.</p>
<p>The house I am selling is 35 minutes by car to midtown Manhattan when there is no traffic (weekends) and 1 hour and 15 minutes by NJ Transit train when I went to work. There are 3 shopping malls within 20 minutes, the regional public theater within 10 minutes, South Mountain Reservation Parkland within 5 minutes and several movie theaters within 10 minutes. The Jersey shore is less than an hour away.<br />
The price for my house? $540,000.<br />
Taxes on said house &#8211; $8000.</p>
<p>Lets compare what I am looking at in the East Bay, ostensibly Berkeley, Piedmont/Montclair, Albany. First of all $540 buys a dump with 2 small bedrooms if I am lucky and no land. For something reasonably close (and there are not alot of reasonably close homes), I am looking at homes at or slightly above $1mm. Given taxes of 1.3% that&#8217;s about $13,000.</p>
<p>Is NJ cheaper? You bet.<br />
-c</p>
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		<title>By: burbed</title>
		<link>http://www.burbed.com/2007/11/14/counterargument-nj-is-more-expensive/#comment-2962</link>
		<dc:creator>burbed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 17:40:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@15: But do your parents have access to so many Targets? Probably not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@15: But do your parents have access to so many Targets? Probably not.</p>
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		<title>By: DensityDuck</title>
		<link>http://www.burbed.com/2007/11/14/counterargument-nj-is-more-expensive/#comment-2961</link>
		<dc:creator>DensityDuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 15:37:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recently bought a townhouse on the outskirts of San Jose...I paid as much for my place as my parents&#039; house in PA is worth, and they&#039;ve got two acres on the side of a mountain...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently bought a townhouse on the outskirts of San Jose&#8230;I paid as much for my place as my parents&#8217; house in PA is worth, and they&#8217;ve got two acres on the side of a mountain&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Toast</title>
		<link>http://www.burbed.com/2007/11/14/counterargument-nj-is-more-expensive/#comment-2960</link>
		<dc:creator>Toast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 03:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live in socal now, but I grew up in New Jersey (Mercer County) and spent 3 years living in San Francisco.  My parents still live there, along with some of my relatives.

A NJ suburb may not be the most exciting place in the world, but you can visit Philly and NYC from central NJ about as easily as someone can get to San Francisco and San Jose.  Whether the cities compare to each other favorably, well that&#039;s another story.

Anyways, back to real estate.  When I grew up in NJ, we measured lot sizes in acres.  I suspect that recent construction resembles CA real estate, but there&#039;s a lot of old housing developments out there.  Even in socal, anything I buy will be measured in sq. ft, and god forbid my career takes me back north.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in socal now, but I grew up in New Jersey (Mercer County) and spent 3 years living in San Francisco.  My parents still live there, along with some of my relatives.</p>
<p>A NJ suburb may not be the most exciting place in the world, but you can visit Philly and NYC from central NJ about as easily as someone can get to San Francisco and San Jose.  Whether the cities compare to each other favorably, well that&#8217;s another story.</p>
<p>Anyways, back to real estate.  When I grew up in NJ, we measured lot sizes in acres.  I suspect that recent construction resembles CA real estate, but there&#8217;s a lot of old housing developments out there.  Even in socal, anything I buy will be measured in sq. ft, and god forbid my career takes me back north.</p>
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		<title>By: OurHunterdon</title>
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		<dc:creator>OurHunterdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 02:38:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, I live in NJ - Hunterdon County - and used to commute to the Bay Area weekly - so I happen to love both places - a lot.

There is no question that home prices in the SF area are far higher, on average than anywhere in NJ, including Hunterdon, which is now the wealthiest county in the United States. What I can say is that property taxes on typical $600-900k homes here (and that is the typical range in the northern tier of the county) is probably $15k to $25k per year. Our schools are far better than those in California, and I base that on having friends with kids - and who are teachers in both places. And our traffic is a lot easier to handle - except for all the Pennsylvania folks driving through our county to get to work in NY.

Oh, did I mention, we are an hour from New York City, which as much as I love SF, is kind of a nice place to visit??? BTW, yes, Hunterdon is 95% Republican (not me) - but they are the Christy Whitman/Nelson Rockefeller Republicans - pro-choice, anti-war.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, I live in NJ &#8211; Hunterdon County &#8211; and used to commute to the Bay Area weekly &#8211; so I happen to love both places &#8211; a lot.</p>
<p>There is no question that home prices in the SF area are far higher, on average than anywhere in NJ, including Hunterdon, which is now the wealthiest county in the United States. What I can say is that property taxes on typical $600-900k homes here (and that is the typical range in the northern tier of the county) is probably $15k to $25k per year. Our schools are far better than those in California, and I base that on having friends with kids &#8211; and who are teachers in both places. And our traffic is a lot easier to handle &#8211; except for all the Pennsylvania folks driving through our county to get to work in NY.</p>
<p>Oh, did I mention, we are an hour from New York City, which as much as I love SF, is kind of a nice place to visit??? BTW, yes, Hunterdon is 95% Republican (not me) &#8211; but they are the Christy Whitman/Nelson Rockefeller Republicans &#8211; pro-choice, anti-war.</p>
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		<title>By: RealEstater</title>
		<link>http://www.burbed.com/2007/11/14/counterargument-nj-is-more-expensive/#comment-2958</link>
		<dc:creator>RealEstater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 01:30:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Been to the burbs in NJ many years ago. There&#039;s nothing to do there...maybe go fishing on the weekend. It&#039;s that type of place. Never found a reason to visit again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Been to the burbs in NJ many years ago. There&#8217;s nothing to do there&#8230;maybe go fishing on the weekend. It&#8217;s that type of place. Never found a reason to visit again.</p>
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		<title>By: sonarrat</title>
		<link>http://www.burbed.com/2007/11/14/counterargument-nj-is-more-expensive/#comment-2957</link>
		<dc:creator>sonarrat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 01:23:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ESR: New Jersey has slums that make our trailer parks look good. But they&#039;re priced accordingly, i.e. under $75,000 for a flat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ESR: New Jersey has slums that make our trailer parks look good. But they&#8217;re priced accordingly, i.e. under $75,000 for a flat.</p>
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		<title>By: Cathy</title>
		<link>http://www.burbed.com/2007/11/14/counterargument-nj-is-more-expensive/#comment-2956</link>
		<dc:creator>Cathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 00:03:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love all the red faced rhetoric too... what do commies have to do with anything anymore? Is this guy for real? Where did he come from? Did I just wake up in 1950?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love all the red faced rhetoric too&#8230; what do commies have to do with anything anymore? Is this guy for real? Where did he come from? Did I just wake up in 1950?</p>
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