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	<title>Comments on: Tommy&#8217;s parents avoided being foolish</title>
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		<title>By: burbed</title>
		<link>http://www.burbed.com/2007/11/30/tommys-parents-avoided-being-foolish/#comment-3192</link>
		<dc:creator>burbed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 00:44:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Except these programs generally have higher interest rates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Except these programs generally have higher interest rates.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee Matthews - Financial Concepts West</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lee Matthews - Financial Concepts West</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 00:35:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;We&#039;ll probably go full bore into paying it [our mortgage] off and drop about 10K a month into the payment and have it all paid off by about 2014-2016&quot;

What with the way the Real Estate market is today, folks can no longer count on appreciation to build equity. Those (like you) who realize that they need to pay down their current mortgage debt are looking for alternate ways to aggressively (yet safely) build equity.

They&#039;ve found that the Money Merge Account™ system is a perfect way to do that; they can focus on the wealth accumulation goals while accelerating their equity by using a Home Equity Line of Credit (HELOC).

A typical 30 year loan (of whatever type) can be paid down in 1/3 to 1/2 the time; it&#039;s a great way to save *huge* amounts of income by eliminating the front-end interest load of a mortgage amortization schedule. (On these million-plus dollar homes, I&#039;ve personally seen where the Money Merge Account™ program will save the owner 3/4 million in interest charges!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We&#8217;ll probably go full bore into paying it [our mortgage] off and drop about 10K a month into the payment and have it all paid off by about 2014-2016&#8243;</p>
<p>What with the way the Real Estate market is today, folks can no longer count on appreciation to build equity. Those (like you) who realize that they need to pay down their current mortgage debt are looking for alternate ways to aggressively (yet safely) build equity.</p>
<p>They&#8217;ve found that the Money Merge Account™ system is a perfect way to do that; they can focus on the wealth accumulation goals while accelerating their equity by using a Home Equity Line of Credit (HELOC).</p>
<p>A typical 30 year loan (of whatever type) can be paid down in 1/3 to 1/2 the time; it&#8217;s a great way to save *huge* amounts of income by eliminating the front-end interest load of a mortgage amortization schedule. (On these million-plus dollar homes, I&#8217;ve personally seen where the Money Merge Account™ program will save the owner 3/4 million in interest charges!)</p>
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		<title>By: Sj</title>
		<link>http://www.burbed.com/2007/11/30/tommys-parents-avoided-being-foolish/#comment-3190</link>
		<dc:creator>Sj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 02:33:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>32 - Nice try on the race-baiting, but I&#039;m not white jackass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>32 &#8211; Nice try on the race-baiting, but I&#8217;m not white jackass.</p>
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		<title>By: rick</title>
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		<dc:creator>rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 19:03:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very good discussion.

I think the tax advantage on the mortgage interest is what helps drawing people in debt.

I did some calculations. The tax advantage only plays to a certain extent - you have high (earned?) income and high mortgage debt.

There is a lot of caveats:

If your income is TOO high, then you don&#039;t get any tax benefits.
If your mortgage debt is too low, say below $100k. Then you&#039;d better off not doing itemized return.
blah blah

The guy saying he mortgage his house to live at large probably has no clue, he will have no (earned) income and probably nobody wants to loan him money (certainly not true in these insane days).

There are advertised services that will pay you to take your home equity, but I highly doubt that it won&#039;t cause you an arm and a leg.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very good discussion.</p>
<p>I think the tax advantage on the mortgage interest is what helps drawing people in debt.</p>
<p>I did some calculations. The tax advantage only plays to a certain extent &#8211; you have high (earned?) income and high mortgage debt.</p>
<p>There is a lot of caveats:</p>
<p>If your income is TOO high, then you don&#8217;t get any tax benefits.<br />
If your mortgage debt is too low, say below $100k. Then you&#8217;d better off not doing itemized return.<br />
blah blah</p>
<p>The guy saying he mortgage his house to live at large probably has no clue, he will have no (earned) income and probably nobody wants to loan him money (certainly not true in these insane days).</p>
<p>There are advertised services that will pay you to take your home equity, but I highly doubt that it won&#8217;t cause you an arm and a leg.</p>
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		<title>By: DensityDuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>DensityDuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 18:34:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SJ:  dose illegal immygrunts dun gonna tek are wimmin, cos ya know dose beaners is all crazy for white chicks amirite?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SJ:  dose illegal immygrunts dun gonna tek are wimmin, cos ya know dose beaners is all crazy for white chicks amirite?</p>
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		<title>By: Sj</title>
		<link>http://www.burbed.com/2007/11/30/tommys-parents-avoided-being-foolish/#comment-3187</link>
		<dc:creator>Sj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 17:48:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ken H - Oh yes, let&#039;s all pretend illegal aliens without SSNs and driver&#039;s licenses have auto insurance and rainbows cover each road. You&#039;re a typical bay area moron.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ken H &#8211; Oh yes, let&#8217;s all pretend illegal aliens without SSNs and driver&#8217;s licenses have auto insurance and rainbows cover each road. You&#8217;re a typical bay area moron.</p>
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		<title>By: densityduck</title>
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		<dc:creator>densityduck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 08:30:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah; lots of people here talking as though everyone in the world just has a million dollars sitting there in a trust fund, doing nothing but earning interest.  If a big bag of money fell out of a Brinks truck and landed at my feet, then sure, I&#039;d pay off the house.  But I&#039;m not going to beggar myself right now just to cut ten years off a thirty-year mortgage.  My loans are fixed-rate, I can make the payments at my current income level, I don&#039;t see a reason why I shouldn&#039;t just plug-and-chug for the next thirty years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah; lots of people here talking as though everyone in the world just has a million dollars sitting there in a trust fund, doing nothing but earning interest.  If a big bag of money fell out of a Brinks truck and landed at my feet, then sure, I&#8217;d pay off the house.  But I&#8217;m not going to beggar myself right now just to cut ten years off a thirty-year mortgage.  My loans are fixed-rate, I can make the payments at my current income level, I don&#8217;t see a reason why I shouldn&#8217;t just plug-and-chug for the next thirty years.</p>
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		<title>By: Village Idiot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Village Idiot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 02:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Village, I&#039;m sorry that the rest of us are RICH like you.  Us little people who are so inferior, we need mortgages since we weren&#039;t SO SMART like you.

I&#039;m sure it must be nice to be an egotistical jerk.  Your kids and 3 ex-wives adore you, I&#039;m sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Village, I&#8217;m sorry that the rest of us are RICH like you.  Us little people who are so inferior, we need mortgages since we weren&#8217;t SO SMART like you.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure it must be nice to be an egotistical jerk.  Your kids and 3 ex-wives adore you, I&#8217;m sure.</p>
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		<title>By: Village</title>
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		<dc:creator>Village</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 21:29:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If it is such a good idea to have a mortgage, how come rich people pay cash for houses and cars.

I have a paid for house and a paid for car. NO DEBTS. Got out of the stock market at 14,000. I am sitting on cash with a hope to buy some rental property for income.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it is such a good idea to have a mortgage, how come rich people pay cash for houses and cars.</p>
<p>I have a paid for house and a paid for car. NO DEBTS. Got out of the stock market at 14,000. I am sitting on cash with a hope to buy some rental property for income.</p>
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		<title>By: W. Kiernan</title>
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		<dc:creator>W. Kiernan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 16:28:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;&quot;If you own your own home free and clear, people will often refer to you as a fool. All that money sitting there, doing nothing.&quot;&lt;/I&gt;

If you accept this axiom, then everything the mortgage brokers say follows with unimpeachable logic.  But in fact this axiom happens not to apply to the one-and-only house which the majority of mortgage holders own.  For the single-house crowd, &quot;all that money&quot; equals &quot;the house you live in&quot;.  Thus the axiom can be restated as &quot;you would be a fool, with the house you live in sitting there, doing nothing.&quot;

But the house you live in doesn&#039;t just sit there doing nothing.  Use your eyes!  Your house is busy busy busy all day every day.  It keeps the rain off your head.  It provides a shady space with electric outlets for your refrigerator and stove.  It defends your pawnable goods from the sticky fingers of the ethically derelict.  It prevents passing cops from harassing you when you are trying to get some sleep.  Do not forget the great blessing of a properly functioning private bathroom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;If you own your own home free and clear, people will often refer to you as a fool. All that money sitting there, doing nothing.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>If you accept this axiom, then everything the mortgage brokers say follows with unimpeachable logic.  But in fact this axiom happens not to apply to the one-and-only house which the majority of mortgage holders own.  For the single-house crowd, &#8220;all that money&#8221; equals &#8220;the house you live in&#8221;.  Thus the axiom can be restated as &#8220;you would be a fool, with the house you live in sitting there, doing nothing.&#8221;</p>
<p>But the house you live in doesn&#8217;t just sit there doing nothing.  Use your eyes!  Your house is busy busy busy all day every day.  It keeps the rain off your head.  It provides a shady space with electric outlets for your refrigerator and stove.  It defends your pawnable goods from the sticky fingers of the ethically derelict.  It prevents passing cops from harassing you when you are trying to get some sleep.  Do not forget the great blessing of a properly functioning private bathroom.</p>
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