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		<title>By: Renter4</title>
		<link>http://www.burbed.com/2008/04/23/living-in-the-bay-area-makes-you-live-longer/#comment-7267</link>
		<dc:creator>Renter4</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 03:51:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh and for god&#039;s sake: the reason the checkboxes are separate is that the ethnicities are different.  If you are distinguishing between ethnicities for some reason then you don&#039;t shove them all together by continent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh and for god&#8217;s sake: the reason the checkboxes are separate is that the ethnicities are different.  If you are distinguishing between ethnicities for some reason then you don&#8217;t shove them all together by continent.</p>
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		<title>By: Renter4</title>
		<link>http://www.burbed.com/2008/04/23/living-in-the-bay-area-makes-you-live-longer/#comment-7266</link>
		<dc:creator>Renter4</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 03:47:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;The old immigrants are mostly in San Francisco/China Town. &lt;/i&gt;

The question is not where the immigrants themselves stayed; it&#039;s where their kids went.  Anyway I would bet good money that this is not true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The old immigrants are mostly in San Francisco/China Town. </i></p>
<p>The question is not where the immigrants themselves stayed; it&#8217;s where their kids went.  Anyway I would bet good money that this is not true.</p>
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		<title>By: Pralay</title>
		<link>http://www.burbed.com/2008/04/23/living-in-the-bay-area-makes-you-live-longer/#comment-7265</link>
		<dc:creator>Pralay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 01:57:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;The whites are older (kids grown and gone), the Chinese &amp; Indians more likely to have families.&lt;/i&gt;
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Madhaus,
Whatever the mix, it definitely does not support RE&#039;s silly argument (and quite off-topic) in at post #31.

Whatever the ratio, it only shows that certain ethnic group is concentrated in certain areas/cities. That does not mean &quot;ethnic X people don&#039;t get it&quot;.

And many Indians renting in Sunnyvale? That has more to do with H1/L1 visa than anything else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The whites are older (kids grown and gone), the Chinese &amp; Indians more likely to have families.</i><br />
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<p>Madhaus,<br />
Whatever the mix, it definitely does not support RE&#8217;s silly argument (and quite off-topic) in at post #31.</p>
<p>Whatever the ratio, it only shows that certain ethnic group is concentrated in certain areas/cities. That does not mean &#8220;ethnic X people don&#8217;t get it&#8221;.</p>
<p>And many Indians renting in Sunnyvale? That has more to do with H1/L1 visa than anything else.</p>
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		<title>By: madhaus</title>
		<link>http://www.burbed.com/2008/04/23/living-in-the-bay-area-makes-you-live-longer/#comment-7264</link>
		<dc:creator>madhaus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 21:23:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RE, I noticed different mixes.  The whites are older (kids grown and gone), the Chinese &amp; Indians more likely to have families.  From the school, I see an even mix of all 3 groups but I&#039;m not the one taking the census.  I believe CUSD is majority East Asian but each school has a different mix.  You&#039;d find the most in the Monte Vista school district.

In my immediate neighborhood I see the same thing.  Few Chinese on our block and I seriously believe it&#039;s because of the 4 in all the house numbers.  There is only one rental on our street and it always goes to Japanese or Israelis.

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention the Israelis, lots of them at school too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE, I noticed different mixes.  The whites are older (kids grown and gone), the Chinese &amp; Indians more likely to have families.  From the school, I see an even mix of all 3 groups but I&#8217;m not the one taking the census.  I believe CUSD is majority East Asian but each school has a different mix.  You&#8217;d find the most in the Monte Vista school district.</p>
<p>In my immediate neighborhood I see the same thing.  Few Chinese on our block and I seriously believe it&#8217;s because of the 4 in all the house numbers.  There is only one rental on our street and it always goes to Japanese or Israelis.</p>
<p>Oh yeah, I forgot to mention the Israelis, lots of them at school too.</p>
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		<title>By: Real Estater</title>
		<link>http://www.burbed.com/2008/04/23/living-in-the-bay-area-makes-you-live-longer/#comment-7263</link>
		<dc:creator>Real Estater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 16:36:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Madhaus,

From your observation, what percentage of people in Cupertino are Indians vs. Asians?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Madhaus,</p>
<p>From your observation, what percentage of people in Cupertino are Indians vs. Asians?</p>
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		<title>By: Pralay</title>
		<link>http://www.burbed.com/2008/04/23/living-in-the-bay-area-makes-you-live-longer/#comment-7262</link>
		<dc:creator>Pralay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 15:49:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;If you go to Cupertino, you will be hard pressed to find any Asian whose ancestors came from that heritage. The old immigrants are mostly in San Francisco/China Town; I’ve never heard of Chinese immigrants being rooted in Cupertino as a part of Asian American history.

You’ll be disappointed, but I must tell you those folks are recent immigrants just like you.&lt;/i&gt;
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RE,
Just read the quote from Renter4 to find what part I am responding to. I was not talking about specific to Cupertino. Cupertino has lots of Indians too. That 44%  what Madhaus mentioned - that includes Indians too.

That makes your whole point mute.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>If you go to Cupertino, you will be hard pressed to find any Asian whose ancestors came from that heritage. The old immigrants are mostly in San Francisco/China Town; I’ve never heard of Chinese immigrants being rooted in Cupertino as a part of Asian American history.</p>
<p>You’ll be disappointed, but I must tell you those folks are recent immigrants just like you.</i><br />
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<p>RE,<br />
Just read the quote from Renter4 to find what part I am responding to. I was not talking about specific to Cupertino. Cupertino has lots of Indians too. That 44%  what Madhaus mentioned &#8211; that includes Indians too.</p>
<p>That makes your whole point mute.</p>
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		<title>By: RealEstater</title>
		<link>http://www.burbed.com/2008/04/23/living-in-the-bay-area-makes-you-live-longer/#comment-7261</link>
		<dc:creator>RealEstater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 13:07:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, guys, how about this: Indians are not &quot;real&quot; Asians. This is why government forms have a different check box for this group, as Pralay has seen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, guys, how about this: Indians are not &#8220;real&#8221; Asians. This is why government forms have a different check box for this group, as Pralay has seen.</p>
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		<title>By: RealEstater</title>
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		<dc:creator>RealEstater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 13:05:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;Exactly. East Asians (predominantly from China) has very old root in California. Some of them immigrated here for all the railroads works in late 19th century and early 20th century

Pralay,

If you go to Cupertino, you will be hard pressed to find any Asian whose ancestors came from that heritage. The old immigrants are mostly in San Francisco/China Town; I&#039;ve never heard of Chinese immigrants being rooted in Cupertino as a part of Asian American history.

You&#039;ll be disappointed, but I must tell you those folks are recent immigrants just like you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;Exactly. East Asians (predominantly from China) has very old root in California. Some of them immigrated here for all the railroads works in late 19th century and early 20th century</p>
<p>Pralay,</p>
<p>If you go to Cupertino, you will be hard pressed to find any Asian whose ancestors came from that heritage. The old immigrants are mostly in San Francisco/China Town; I&#8217;ve never heard of Chinese immigrants being rooted in Cupertino as a part of Asian American history.</p>
<p>You&#8217;ll be disappointed, but I must tell you those folks are recent immigrants just like you.</p>
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		<title>By: madhaus</title>
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		<dc:creator>madhaus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 10:41:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Umm, somehow I think you&#039;re leaving something out.  Why is July 1st, 1997 important?  Free hint: Hong Kong.

Percentage of Asians in Cupertino:

1970: 2.8% (500 of 18,000, of which biggest % was Japanese)
1980: 6.7% (2200 of 34,000, includes Asian Indians, Chinese &amp; Japanese both 2.6%)
1990: 23% (9300 of 40,000.  Chinese now 13.2%, next biggest group is Japanese, 4.5%)
2000: 44.6% (22,000 of 50,000)  Different groups no longer specified.  3.1% in addition considered themselves of two or more races.

Source: US Census, via &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bayareacensus.ca.gov/cities/Cupertino.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Bay Area Census&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Umm, somehow I think you&#8217;re leaving something out.  Why is July 1st, 1997 important?  Free hint: Hong Kong.</p>
<p>Percentage of Asians in Cupertino:</p>
<p>1970: 2.8% (500 of 18,000, of which biggest % was Japanese)<br />
1980: 6.7% (2200 of 34,000, includes Asian Indians, Chinese &amp; Japanese both 2.6%)<br />
1990: 23% (9300 of 40,000.  Chinese now 13.2%, next biggest group is Japanese, 4.5%)<br />
2000: 44.6% (22,000 of 50,000)  Different groups no longer specified.  3.1% in addition considered themselves of two or more races.</p>
<p>Source: US Census, via <a href="http://www.bayareacensus.ca.gov/cities/Cupertino.htm" rel="nofollow">Bay Area Census</a></p>
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		<title>By: Pralay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pralay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 06:53:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;My *very* vague impression is many of the East Asians I know were helped out on the down payment by their parents, who emigrated in 1970 or whenever, and that many South Asians like myself are still building up that cushion. This is just anecdata, though, who knows if there is a real diff and if so what it is.&lt;/i&gt;
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BTW, I forgot to address the real estate &quot;culture&quot; of these two communities.
Coming from India, I know, like many Asian (East Asian) owning real estate is very important for Indians too. &lt;b&gt;If you don&#039;t own real estate and gold, you would not be considered &quot;successful in life&quot;, no matter how much salary you earn, and how many stocks and other assets you have.&lt;/b&gt; Period.

Before globalization and open-door economic policies (pre-1990 period when India was more aligned to Soviet Union), there were not much investment options for middle class people in India. On the top of that there were skyrocketing inflation (it is still 7+% in India, officially). So you have only few options
- own real estate
- own gold
- buying various govt managed provident fund policies.

And I think it is true for not just India, but true for many third world countries - including many &quot;Asian&quot; countries. So, I think you get the idea why owning real estate is such an important thing for Indians. It is not really &quot;cultural&quot; thing, as RealEstater is trying to portray. It&#039;s more of a &lt;b&gt;socio-economic&lt;/b&gt; thing.

So whatever Cupertino homes are selling in inflated price - it&#039;s not that Indians are less responsible than Asians. They both have same goal: &quot;Have to own A HOME and it has be in good school district for the sake of kids.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>My *very* vague impression is many of the East Asians I know were helped out on the down payment by their parents, who emigrated in 1970 or whenever, and that many South Asians like myself are still building up that cushion. This is just anecdata, though, who knows if there is a real diff and if so what it is.</i><br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>BTW, I forgot to address the real estate &#8220;culture&#8221; of these two communities.<br />
Coming from India, I know, like many Asian (East Asian) owning real estate is very important for Indians too. <b>If you don&#8217;t own real estate and gold, you would not be considered &#8220;successful in life&#8221;, no matter how much salary you earn, and how many stocks and other assets you have.</b> Period.</p>
<p>Before globalization and open-door economic policies (pre-1990 period when India was more aligned to Soviet Union), there were not much investment options for middle class people in India. On the top of that there were skyrocketing inflation (it is still 7+% in India, officially). So you have only few options<br />
- own real estate<br />
- own gold<br />
- buying various govt managed provident fund policies.</p>
<p>And I think it is true for not just India, but true for many third world countries &#8211; including many &#8220;Asian&#8221; countries. So, I think you get the idea why owning real estate is such an important thing for Indians. It is not really &#8220;cultural&#8221; thing, as RealEstater is trying to portray. It&#8217;s more of a <b>socio-economic</b> thing.</p>
<p>So whatever Cupertino homes are selling in inflated price &#8211; it&#8217;s not that Indians are less responsible than Asians. They both have same goal: &#8220;Have to own A HOME and it has be in good school district for the sake of kids.&#8221;</p>
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