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	<title>Comments on: San Francisco economy is bulletproof &#8211; Oakland has carjacking problems</title>
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		<title>By: RealEstater</title>
		<link>http://www.burbed.com/2008/06/06/san-francisco-economy-is-bulletproof-oakland-has-carjacking-problems/#comment-18838</link>
		<dc:creator>RealEstater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 05:10:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pralay,

How are your investments doing? Did you follow my advice a few weeks ago to invest in energy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pralay,</p>
<p>How are your investments doing? Did you follow my advice a few weeks ago to invest in energy?</p>
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		<title>By: RealEstater</title>
		<link>http://www.burbed.com/2008/06/06/san-francisco-economy-is-bulletproof-oakland-has-carjacking-problems/#comment-18837</link>
		<dc:creator>RealEstater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 05:02:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Madhaus,

I think you are surprised by my familiarity with just about every RBA neighborhood that come up for discussion. I know every street in your neighborhood too. No, I&#039;m not implying I lived on your street...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Madhaus,</p>
<p>I think you are surprised by my familiarity with just about every RBA neighborhood that come up for discussion. I know every street in your neighborhood too. No, I&#8217;m not implying I lived on your street&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: RealEstater</title>
		<link>http://www.burbed.com/2008/06/06/san-francisco-economy-is-bulletproof-oakland-has-carjacking-problems/#comment-18836</link>
		<dc:creator>RealEstater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 04:56:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;just like he implies he lives in Palo Alto 

Madhaus,

I hate to keep responding to your nonsense, but I&#039;m curious about this one. Where did I imply anything about where I live? Do I need to imply anything? Usually I just tell it as it is, which you label as &quot;trolling&quot;. If you don&#039;t enjoy the alternate opinions here, may I suggest that you go to a bubble site where you will always get the applause you are looking for?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;just like he implies he lives in Palo Alto </p>
<p>Madhaus,</p>
<p>I hate to keep responding to your nonsense, but I&#8217;m curious about this one. Where did I imply anything about where I live? Do I need to imply anything? Usually I just tell it as it is, which you label as &#8220;trolling&#8221;. If you don&#8217;t enjoy the alternate opinions here, may I suggest that you go to a bubble site where you will always get the applause you are looking for?</p>
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		<title>By: RealEstater</title>
		<link>http://www.burbed.com/2008/06/06/san-francisco-economy-is-bulletproof-oakland-has-carjacking-problems/#comment-18835</link>
		<dc:creator>RealEstater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 04:51:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Madhaus,

You&#039;re the one who is trolling feeding us useless, misleading aggregate data. This complaint has already been raised before by multiple people, yet you continue on with your propaganda. WTF?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Madhaus,</p>
<p>You&#8217;re the one who is trolling feeding us useless, misleading aggregate data. This complaint has already been raised before by multiple people, yet you continue on with your propaganda. WTF?</p>
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		<title>By: Pralay</title>
		<link>http://www.burbed.com/2008/06/06/san-francisco-economy-is-bulletproof-oakland-has-carjacking-problems/#comment-18834</link>
		<dc:creator>Pralay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 04:37:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And don&#039;t forget he is a comedian too. So when he misses something, he would just say &quot;I was just joking&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And don&#8217;t forget he is a comedian too. So when he misses something, he would just say &#8220;I was just joking&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: madhaus</title>
		<link>http://www.burbed.com/2008/06/06/san-francisco-economy-is-bulletproof-oakland-has-carjacking-problems/#comment-18832</link>
		<dc:creator>madhaus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 03:39:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Crossroads&lt;/b&gt;, is it the same Ben Stein?  Are the economist and the actor the same person?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Crossroads</b>, is it the same Ben Stein?  Are the economist and the actor the same person?</p>
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		<title>By: Crossroads</title>
		<link>http://www.burbed.com/2008/06/06/san-francisco-economy-is-bulletproof-oakland-has-carjacking-problems/#comment-18831</link>
		<dc:creator>Crossroads</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 01:22:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ben stein did write a great editorial in the nytimes a few weeks back about how the lack of regulation on wall st is nutty. so, he has some hits and some misses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ben stein did write a great editorial in the nytimes a few weeks back about how the lack of regulation on wall st is nutty. so, he has some hits and some misses.</p>
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		<title>By: madhaus</title>
		<link>http://www.burbed.com/2008/06/06/san-francisco-economy-is-bulletproof-oakland-has-carjacking-problems/#comment-18829</link>
		<dc:creator>madhaus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 00:28:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are we talking about the same Ben Stein, the one who is an &quot;economist&quot; (per Yahoo) is the same one who is an actor (the teacher in &lt;i&gt;Ferris Bueller&lt;/i&gt;) and a game show host and now produced and stars in the creationist propaganda lying-sack-of-sh** movie &lt;i&gt;Expelled&lt;/i&gt;?  It is entirely possible there is more than one dude named Ben Stein.  And also possible that the Ben Stein who wrote this article is a NAR shill.

You all (yes you &lt;b&gt;Pralay&lt;/b&gt;, and you &lt;b&gt;bob&lt;/b&gt;, and &lt;b&gt;Crossroads&lt;/b&gt; and who else did I leave out?) really should know better than to feed the troll.  Haven&#039;t you figured out that every article the troll ever posts always proves the opposite of the claim?  It&#039;s part of the game, just like he implies he lives in Palo Alto (but since he seems to know nothing about any particular neighborhood...) or drives a Porsche or whatever.  I&#039;m sure he&#039;s chuckling over getting you to &quot;bite&quot; again.  Stop it.  Now.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are we talking about the same Ben Stein, the one who is an &#8220;economist&#8221; (per Yahoo) is the same one who is an actor (the teacher in <i>Ferris Bueller</i>) and a game show host and now produced and stars in the creationist propaganda lying-sack-of-sh** movie <i>Expelled</i>?  It is entirely possible there is more than one dude named Ben Stein.  And also possible that the Ben Stein who wrote this article is a NAR shill.</p>
<p>You all (yes you <b>Pralay</b>, and you <b>bob</b>, and <b>Crossroads</b> and who else did I leave out?) really should know better than to feed the troll.  Haven&#8217;t you figured out that every article the troll ever posts always proves the opposite of the claim?  It&#8217;s part of the game, just like he implies he lives in Palo Alto (but since he seems to know nothing about any particular neighborhood&#8230;) or drives a Porsche or whatever.  I&#8217;m sure he&#8217;s chuckling over getting you to &#8220;bite&#8221; again.  Stop it.  Now.</p>
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		<title>By: Pralay</title>
		<link>http://www.burbed.com/2008/06/06/san-francisco-economy-is-bulletproof-oakland-has-carjacking-problems/#comment-18827</link>
		<dc:creator>Pralay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 22:58:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;he funded a movie about intelligent design - he does not believe in evolution.&lt;/i&gt;
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Now I know while designing God forgot to add intelligence on another person. Not so intelligent design then. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>he funded a movie about intelligent design &#8211; he does not believe in evolution.</i><br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>Now I know while designing God forgot to add intelligence on another person. Not so intelligent design then. <img src='http://www.burbed.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: sonarrat</title>
		<link>http://www.burbed.com/2008/06/06/san-francisco-economy-is-bulletproof-oakland-has-carjacking-problems/#comment-18825</link>
		<dc:creator>sonarrat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 21:16:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;40% off? so what. Homes in Oakland were 150k or under when I moved here 8 years ago, and were so until more recently. 40% off means there’s probably another 20-30% left to go.I wouldn’t be giddy about buying a house in the part of Oakland you’re referring to because there’s a good reason why that area is having such a reduction in prices. That’s just my advice though. I assume you’re gonna’ buy a house as soon as you can anyway.&quot;

Yes, I am going to buy as soon as I can, because the PITI on the house I want is $100 less than the rent on my 1-bedroom apartment in the SFO airport flightpath. It&#039;s not a question of getting my own personal piggy bank - believe it or not, it actually is a question of value. Oakland is a great value right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;40% off? so what. Homes in Oakland were 150k or under when I moved here 8 years ago, and were so until more recently. 40% off means there’s probably another 20-30% left to go.I wouldn’t be giddy about buying a house in the part of Oakland you’re referring to because there’s a good reason why that area is having such a reduction in prices. That’s just my advice though. I assume you’re gonna’ buy a house as soon as you can anyway.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes, I am going to buy as soon as I can, because the PITI on the house I want is $100 less than the rent on my 1-bedroom apartment in the SFO airport flightpath. It&#8217;s not a question of getting my own personal piggy bank &#8211; believe it or not, it actually is a question of value. Oakland is a great value right now.</p>
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		<title>By: bob</title>
		<link>http://www.burbed.com/2008/06/06/san-francisco-economy-is-bulletproof-oakland-has-carjacking-problems/#comment-18824</link>
		<dc:creator>bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 20:56:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The other rather BIG thing is that this is basically another article making much ado about nothing. We&#039;re talking PENDING sales, which if my neighborhood, which as mentioned before is one of those &#039;good&#039; neighborhoods that attract nervous do-gooder parents, then 50% of those pending signs will revert back to &quot;for sale&quot;. There have been 4-5 pending signs around my block as of late. two have already gone back on the market. One has been pending since early March. Anyone can make an acceptable offer. The sinker will be the fact that most of these people will not qualify. 

 Ben Stein mentioned about a month ago that we should save all the big banks at all cost. I&#039;m not sure if I agree with his line of thinking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The other rather BIG thing is that this is basically another article making much ado about nothing. We&#8217;re talking PENDING sales, which if my neighborhood, which as mentioned before is one of those &#8216;good&#8217; neighborhoods that attract nervous do-gooder parents, then 50% of those pending signs will revert back to &#8220;for sale&#8221;. There have been 4-5 pending signs around my block as of late. two have already gone back on the market. One has been pending since early March. Anyone can make an acceptable offer. The sinker will be the fact that most of these people will not qualify. </p>
<p> Ben Stein mentioned about a month ago that we should save all the big banks at all cost. I&#8217;m not sure if I agree with his line of thinking.</p>
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		<title>By: Crossroads</title>
		<link>http://www.burbed.com/2008/06/06/san-francisco-economy-is-bulletproof-oakland-has-carjacking-problems/#comment-18820</link>
		<dc:creator>Crossroads</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 20:34:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that piece on yahoo is from ben stein.

he&#039;s right sometimes. but not always.

he funded a movie about intelligent design - he does not believe in evolution. maybe he believes in faith based real estate economics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that piece on yahoo is from ben stein.</p>
<p>he&#8217;s right sometimes. but not always.</p>
<p>he funded a movie about intelligent design &#8211; he does not believe in evolution. maybe he believes in faith based real estate economics.</p>
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		<title>By: Pralay</title>
		<link>http://www.burbed.com/2008/06/06/san-francisco-economy-is-bulletproof-oakland-has-carjacking-problems/#comment-18819</link>
		<dc:creator>Pralay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 20:29:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Spring Bounce? What we’re really dealing with here is the fact that for the last 2 years, each successive month was the “worst on record”. March was the worst. ever.&lt;/i&gt;
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One more &#039;Spring Bouce&#039;! The funny thing is that RealEstater did not even bother to refer to the data/report he is pointing.

Let&#039;s look at the &lt;a href=&quot;http://money.cnn.com/2008/06/09/news/economy/pending_home_sales/index.htm?postversion=2008060911&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;CNN/Money report with title &lt;b&gt;&quot;Pending home sales up 6.3%; prices seen falling&quot;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;. Falling? You got to be kidding! We are talking about S-P-R-I-N-G B-O-U-N-C-E!

Ok, forget title and let&#039;s read the article. First para:
&lt;blockquote&gt;The number of homes under contract to be sold rose unexpectedly in April as buyers went bargain hunting, according to a report released Monday.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Bargain hunting? What? There is no price drop. Where is this f***ing &quot;bargain&quot; coming from?

3rd para:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Despite the increase, April&#039;s reading remains down 13.1% from the same period last year, and off 29% from the index&#039;s peak in April 2005.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
13% drop from last year&#039;s April? Does not matter. All that matters is it is higher than last March. That&#039;s called &quot;Spring Bounce&quot;! I simply don&#039;t understand why media has to compare with last years&#039; April number. Last year is gone - past, history. Hence last year&#039;s data is irrelevant. 

Let&#039;s go farther down:
&lt;blockquote&gt;And NAR revised its existing home price outlook for 2008 downward. The group&#039;s June projections see prices falling 6.4% by the end of the year; in May it said 2008 prices would fall by 2.4%.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Unbelievable! Now NAR is getting influenced by media spin and predicting more pessimistic outlook.

Bottomline, it&#039;s all media&#039;s fault.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Spring Bounce? What we’re really dealing with here is the fact that for the last 2 years, each successive month was the “worst on record”. March was the worst. ever.</i><br />
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<p>One more &#8216;Spring Bouce&#8217;! The funny thing is that RealEstater did not even bother to refer to the data/report he is pointing.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s look at the <a href="http://money.cnn.com/2008/06/09/news/economy/pending_home_sales/index.htm?postversion=2008060911" rel="nofollow">CNN/Money report with title <b>&#8220;Pending home sales up 6.3%; prices seen falling&#8221;</b></a>. Falling? You got to be kidding! We are talking about S-P-R-I-N-G B-O-U-N-C-E!</p>
<p>Ok, forget title and let&#8217;s read the article. First para:</p>
<blockquote><p>The number of homes under contract to be sold rose unexpectedly in April as buyers went bargain hunting, according to a report released Monday.</p></blockquote>
<p>Bargain hunting? What? There is no price drop. Where is this f***ing &#8220;bargain&#8221; coming from?</p>
<p>3rd para:</p>
<blockquote><p>Despite the increase, April&#8217;s reading remains down 13.1% from the same period last year, and off 29% from the index&#8217;s peak in April 2005.</p></blockquote>
<p>13% drop from last year&#8217;s April? Does not matter. All that matters is it is higher than last March. That&#8217;s called &#8220;Spring Bounce&#8221;! I simply don&#8217;t understand why media has to compare with last years&#8217; April number. Last year is gone &#8211; past, history. Hence last year&#8217;s data is irrelevant. </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s go farther down:</p>
<blockquote><p>And NAR revised its existing home price outlook for 2008 downward. The group&#8217;s June projections see prices falling 6.4% by the end of the year; in May it said 2008 prices would fall by 2.4%.</p></blockquote>
<p>Unbelievable! Now NAR is getting influenced by media spin and predicting more pessimistic outlook.</p>
<p>Bottomline, it&#8217;s all media&#8217;s fault.</p>
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		<title>By: bob</title>
		<link>http://www.burbed.com/2008/06/06/san-francisco-economy-is-bulletproof-oakland-has-carjacking-problems/#comment-18814</link>
		<dc:creator>bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 19:02:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One more thing RealEstater,
That Yahoo article is referring to more recent appreciation per the 10 year housing bubble, which as we all know was fueled by loose lending practices. Banks, lenders, and Wall Street, along with countless foreign financial firms are paying very dearly for that mistake. In other words, that kind of lending environment will not be returning the the marketplace, hence that level of appreciation experienced in the last boom will not be returning. More normalized appreciation? At some point, yes- this will turn around. But rampant appreciation that grossly defies fundamentals? Nope. Ain&#039;t gonna happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One more thing RealEstater,<br />
That Yahoo article is referring to more recent appreciation per the 10 year housing bubble, which as we all know was fueled by loose lending practices. Banks, lenders, and Wall Street, along with countless foreign financial firms are paying very dearly for that mistake. In other words, that kind of lending environment will not be returning the the marketplace, hence that level of appreciation experienced in the last boom will not be returning. More normalized appreciation? At some point, yes- this will turn around. But rampant appreciation that grossly defies fundamentals? Nope. Ain&#8217;t gonna happen.</p>
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		<title>By: bob</title>
		<link>http://www.burbed.com/2008/06/06/san-francisco-economy-is-bulletproof-oakland-has-carjacking-problems/#comment-18813</link>
		<dc:creator>bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 18:56:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;This particular house already is off 40% from where it was in ‘05, and it has already seen at least 4 bids. It’s a tossup whether I’ll even get it at its current price.&lt;/i&gt;

40% off? so what. Homes in Oakland were 150k or under when I moved here 8 years ago, and were so until more recently. 40% off means there&#039;s probably another 20-30% left to go.I wouldn&#039;t be giddy about buying a house in the part of Oakland you&#039;re referring to because there&#039;s a good reason why that area is having such a reduction in prices. That&#039;s just my advice though. I assume you&#039;re gonna&#039; buy a house as soon as you can anyway.

 Spring Bounce? What we&#039;re really dealing with here is the fact that for the last 2 years, each successive month was the &quot;worst on record&quot;. March was the worst. ever. We&#039;re dealing with a MASSIVE amount of foreclosures, fire sales, massive price reductions in places like Oakland, Manteca, and Stockton. Hell- there were 3 &quot;Bank owned&quot; houses in my neighborhood that were open this weekend, and I live in one of those &quot;good&quot; neighborhoods ( Alameda).

 So ya, I wouldn&#039;t be surprised that some people are in fact buying. A huge chunk of those sales are foreclosures or bottom of the barrel scraper homes.

 RE shills are reading this the wrong way. It does not mean that suddenly, RE is going to appreciate. The supply is still at a 11.5 month supply. Home prices are still falling rapidly, and less money is available for loans. SO yes- prices are falling, which for those of you who think that any sort of bounce is your savior are delusional. We will see further price reductions, and yes- appreciation will not be happening until that supply is knocked in half, which at the current rate won&#039;t be until late 2009, 2010.

 The spring bounce proves nothing other then that when prices fall, people will buy, and that early on, there&#039;s a large number of hand-wringing knife catchers.It doesn&#039;t mean that the good ole days are back. sorry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>This particular house already is off 40% from where it was in ‘05, and it has already seen at least 4 bids. It’s a tossup whether I’ll even get it at its current price.</i></p>
<p>40% off? so what. Homes in Oakland were 150k or under when I moved here 8 years ago, and were so until more recently. 40% off means there&#8217;s probably another 20-30% left to go.I wouldn&#8217;t be giddy about buying a house in the part of Oakland you&#8217;re referring to because there&#8217;s a good reason why that area is having such a reduction in prices. That&#8217;s just my advice though. I assume you&#8217;re gonna&#8217; buy a house as soon as you can anyway.</p>
<p> Spring Bounce? What we&#8217;re really dealing with here is the fact that for the last 2 years, each successive month was the &#8220;worst on record&#8221;. March was the worst. ever. We&#8217;re dealing with a MASSIVE amount of foreclosures, fire sales, massive price reductions in places like Oakland, Manteca, and Stockton. Hell- there were 3 &#8220;Bank owned&#8221; houses in my neighborhood that were open this weekend, and I live in one of those &#8220;good&#8221; neighborhoods ( Alameda).</p>
<p> So ya, I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised that some people are in fact buying. A huge chunk of those sales are foreclosures or bottom of the barrel scraper homes.</p>
<p> RE shills are reading this the wrong way. It does not mean that suddenly, RE is going to appreciate. The supply is still at a 11.5 month supply. Home prices are still falling rapidly, and less money is available for loans. SO yes- prices are falling, which for those of you who think that any sort of bounce is your savior are delusional. We will see further price reductions, and yes- appreciation will not be happening until that supply is knocked in half, which at the current rate won&#8217;t be until late 2009, 2010.</p>
<p> The spring bounce proves nothing other then that when prices fall, people will buy, and that early on, there&#8217;s a large number of hand-wringing knife catchers.It doesn&#8217;t mean that the good ole days are back. sorry.</p>
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		<title>By: RealEstater</title>
		<link>http://www.burbed.com/2008/06/06/san-francisco-economy-is-bulletproof-oakland-has-carjacking-problems/#comment-18812</link>
		<dc:creator>RealEstater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 18:09:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Renters,

Check out this article by one of the experts on Yahoo Finance:

http://finance.yahoo.com/expert/article/yourlife/86643

It basically agrees with everything I&#039;ve been saying here. Check out these quotes:

1. appreciation even after the recent correction, has been dramatic. By my rough measurement, the gains since 1990 here in Southern California have been by at least a factor of three. That is, homes that were selling for roughly $400,000 in 1990 would be selling for about $1,200,000. 
 
2. In addition, the owners got the benefits of imputed rent, tax deductions, and no tax at all on the imputed rent, which is really a benefit. 

3. Residential real estate can not be counted out as a smart investment or maybe even as the smartest one you&#039;ll make.

4. Even if you buy at the peak, if you wait long enough, you will generally make out well.

5. in today&#039;s low interest rate world, the interest rate on the mortgage is almost surely higher than the interest on your savings, so that you will in effect earn higher interest by paying off your indebtedness than by keeping it in a savings account or money market or a CD.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Renters,</p>
<p>Check out this article by one of the experts on Yahoo Finance:</p>
<p><a href="http://finance.yahoo.com/expert/article/yourlife/86643" rel="nofollow">http://finance.yahoo.com/expert/article/yourlife/86643</a></p>
<p>It basically agrees with everything I&#8217;ve been saying here. Check out these quotes:</p>
<p>1. appreciation even after the recent correction, has been dramatic. By my rough measurement, the gains since 1990 here in Southern California have been by at least a factor of three. That is, homes that were selling for roughly $400,000 in 1990 would be selling for about $1,200,000. </p>
<p>2. In addition, the owners got the benefits of imputed rent, tax deductions, and no tax at all on the imputed rent, which is really a benefit. </p>
<p>3. Residential real estate can not be counted out as a smart investment or maybe even as the smartest one you&#8217;ll make.</p>
<p>4. Even if you buy at the peak, if you wait long enough, you will generally make out well.</p>
<p>5. in today&#8217;s low interest rate world, the interest rate on the mortgage is almost surely higher than the interest on your savings, so that you will in effect earn higher interest by paying off your indebtedness than by keeping it in a savings account or money market or a CD.</p>
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		<title>By: RealEstater</title>
		<link>http://www.burbed.com/2008/06/06/san-francisco-economy-is-bulletproof-oakland-has-carjacking-problems/#comment-18808</link>
		<dc:creator>RealEstater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 17:23:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Strong &#039;Spring bounce&#039; has been reported today regarding the national housing market. Anyone who is simply &quot;analyzing the data&quot; or extrapolating past results without getting in touch with the pulse of the market would be caught by surprise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Strong &#8216;Spring bounce&#8217; has been reported today regarding the national housing market. Anyone who is simply &#8220;analyzing the data&#8221; or extrapolating past results without getting in touch with the pulse of the market would be caught by surprise.</p>
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		<title>By: sonarrat</title>
		<link>http://www.burbed.com/2008/06/06/san-francisco-economy-is-bulletproof-oakland-has-carjacking-problems/#comment-18784</link>
		<dc:creator>sonarrat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 18:26:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Not sure why you’re even considering buying in Oakland or the BA for that matter since what you pay now will definitely be worth considerably less in a few short years. It sort of sounds like you’re not exactly familiar with the area and doing just what I mentioned above- getting lured into something because it’s cheaper. The reality is that Oakland is just as overpriced as SF and in my opinion has much more pressures being applied to it that will assure double-digit plunges in value.&quot;

This particular house already is off 40% from where it was in &#039;05, and it has already seen at least 4 bids. It&#039;s a tossup whether I&#039;ll even get it at its current price.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Not sure why you’re even considering buying in Oakland or the BA for that matter since what you pay now will definitely be worth considerably less in a few short years. It sort of sounds like you’re not exactly familiar with the area and doing just what I mentioned above- getting lured into something because it’s cheaper. The reality is that Oakland is just as overpriced as SF and in my opinion has much more pressures being applied to it that will assure double-digit plunges in value.&#8221;</p>
<p>This particular house already is off 40% from where it was in &#8216;05, and it has already seen at least 4 bids. It&#8217;s a tossup whether I&#8217;ll even get it at its current price.</p>
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		<title>By: madhaus</title>
		<link>http://www.burbed.com/2008/06/06/san-francisco-economy-is-bulletproof-oakland-has-carjacking-problems/#comment-18758</link>
		<dc:creator>madhaus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 18:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;MSG&lt;/b&gt; that talk is called &quot;wishful thinking.&quot;  There&#039;s plenty of evidence that real estate here is taking many bullets.

Here&#039;s the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dqnews.com/Charts/Monthly-Charts/SF-Chronicle-Charts/ZIPSFC.aspx&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;April (monthly) DQ/San Francisco stats&lt;/a&gt;.  Some up, some &lt;b&gt;down&lt;/b&gt;.  

&lt;b&gt; Community  	Zip  	Sales  	% Chg  	Median Price  	% Chg  	High Price  	$/SqFt  	% Chg &lt;/b&gt;
San Francisco  	94102  	16  	-36.0%  	$585,000  	6.6%  	$861,500  	n/a  	n/a
San Francisco 	94103 	24 	300.0% 	$682,500 	1.1% 	$1,660,500 	n/a 	n/a
San Francisco 	94105 	60 	361.5% 	$660,500 	&lt;b&gt;-26.6%&lt;/b&gt; 	$3,300,000 	n/a 	n/a
San Francisco 	94107 	48 	-2.0% 	$675,000 	&lt;b&gt;-10.0%&lt;/b&gt; 	$1,974,000 	$670 	-10.9%
San Francisco 	94108 	3 	-40.0% 	$479,558 	&lt;b&gt;-33.9%&lt;/b&gt; 	$1,400,000 	n/a 	n/a
San Francisco 	94109 	33 	26.9% 	$785,000 	&lt;b&gt;-4.3%&lt;/b&gt; 	$2,400,000 	n/a 	n/a &lt;i&gt;I lived here long ago, it&#039;s a mix of Western Addition and some Pacific Heights&lt;/i&gt;
San Francisco 	94110 	30 	11.1% 	$800,000 	&lt;b&gt;-11.8%&lt;/b&gt; 	$1,725,000 	$693 	7.0%
San Francisco 	94111 	7 	40.0% 	$665,000 	&lt;b&gt;-24.0%&lt;/b&gt; 	$1,190,000 	n/a 	n/a
San Francisco 	94112 	45 	-29.7% 	$610,000 	&lt;b&gt;-12.9%&lt;/b&gt; 	$925,000 	$513 	3.7%
San Francisco 	94114 	36 	125.0% 	$1,100,000 	&lt;b&gt;-15.4%&lt;/b&gt; 	$5,625,000 	$945 	-8.1%
San Francisco 	94115 	18 	-41.9% 	$895,000 	16.8% 	$4,200,000 	$840 	-1.9% &lt;i&gt;This is Presidio Heights/Laurel &lt;/i&gt;
San Francisco 	94116 	29 	7.4% 	$752,000 	&lt;b&gt;-6.0%&lt;/b&gt; 	$1,995,000 	$560 	-18.5%
San Francisco 	94117 	15 	-59.5% 	$875,000 	16.6% 	$2,800,000 	$2,280 	173.0%
San Francisco 	94118 	27 	92.9% 	$1,375,000 	11.3% 	$9,500,000 	$898 	3.4%
San Francisco 	94121 	19 	5.6% 	$1,039,000 	15.5% 	$1,584,500 	$613 	3.1% &lt;i&gt;I think this one&#039;s north of downtown &lt;/i&gt;
San Francisco 	94122 	30 	25.0% 	$828,000 	3.6% 	$2,350,000 	$629 	0.2%
San Francisco 	94123 	26 	18.2% 	$1,485,000 	&lt;b&gt;-5.4%&lt;/b&gt; 	$5,050,000 	$1,150 	-25.5% &lt;i&gt;This is Marina, a zip I would have expected to stay in the RBA&lt;/i&gt;
San Francisco 	94124 	12 	-45.5% 	$486,750 	&lt;b&gt;-28.8%&lt;/b&gt; 	$1,200,000 	$436 	-7.2%
San Francisco 	94127 	14 	-26.3% 	$1,220,500 	&lt;b&gt;-3.9%&lt;/b&gt; 	$2,200,000 	$756 	1.0%
San Francisco 	94131 	27 	-22.9% 	$952,250 	&lt;b&gt;-1.6%&lt;/b&gt; 	$2,200,000 	$771 	-20.6%
San Francisco 	94132 	15 	36.4% 	$673,500 	1.7% 	$1,320,000 	$530 	-2.2%
San Francisco 	94133 	6 	-40.0% 	$700,000 	&lt;b&gt;-23.9%&lt;/b&gt; 	$1,000,000 	n/a 	n/a
San Francisco 	94134 	18 	-50.0% 	$540,000 	&lt;b&gt;-0.6%&lt;/b&gt; 	$630,000 	$406 	-19.1%

Run that by me again about San Francisco real estate being bulletproof?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>MSG</b> that talk is called &#8220;wishful thinking.&#8221;  There&#8217;s plenty of evidence that real estate here is taking many bullets.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the <a href="http://www.dqnews.com/Charts/Monthly-Charts/SF-Chronicle-Charts/ZIPSFC.aspx" rel="nofollow">April (monthly) DQ/San Francisco stats</a>.  Some up, some <b>down</b>.  </p>
<p><b> Community  	Zip  	Sales  	% Chg  	Median Price  	% Chg  	High Price  	$/SqFt  	% Chg </b><br />
San Francisco  	94102  	16  	-36.0%  	$585,000  	6.6%  	$861,500  	n/a  	n/a<br />
San Francisco 	94103 	24 	300.0% 	$682,500 	1.1% 	$1,660,500 	n/a 	n/a<br />
San Francisco 	94105 	60 	361.5% 	$660,500 	<b>-26.6%</b> 	$3,300,000 	n/a 	n/a<br />
San Francisco 	94107 	48 	-2.0% 	$675,000 	<b>-10.0%</b> 	$1,974,000 	$670 	-10.9%<br />
San Francisco 	94108 	3 	-40.0% 	$479,558 	<b>-33.9%</b> 	$1,400,000 	n/a 	n/a<br />
San Francisco 	94109 	33 	26.9% 	$785,000 	<b>-4.3%</b> 	$2,400,000 	n/a 	n/a <i>I lived here long ago, it&#8217;s a mix of Western Addition and some Pacific Heights</i><br />
San Francisco 	94110 	30 	11.1% 	$800,000 	<b>-11.8%</b> 	$1,725,000 	$693 	7.0%<br />
San Francisco 	94111 	7 	40.0% 	$665,000 	<b>-24.0%</b> 	$1,190,000 	n/a 	n/a<br />
San Francisco 	94112 	45 	-29.7% 	$610,000 	<b>-12.9%</b> 	$925,000 	$513 	3.7%<br />
San Francisco 	94114 	36 	125.0% 	$1,100,000 	<b>-15.4%</b> 	$5,625,000 	$945 	-8.1%<br />
San Francisco 	94115 	18 	-41.9% 	$895,000 	16.8% 	$4,200,000 	$840 	-1.9% <i>This is Presidio Heights/Laurel </i><br />
San Francisco 	94116 	29 	7.4% 	$752,000 	<b>-6.0%</b> 	$1,995,000 	$560 	-18.5%<br />
San Francisco 	94117 	15 	-59.5% 	$875,000 	16.6% 	$2,800,000 	$2,280 	173.0%<br />
San Francisco 	94118 	27 	92.9% 	$1,375,000 	11.3% 	$9,500,000 	$898 	3.4%<br />
San Francisco 	94121 	19 	5.6% 	$1,039,000 	15.5% 	$1,584,500 	$613 	3.1% <i>I think this one&#8217;s north of downtown </i><br />
San Francisco 	94122 	30 	25.0% 	$828,000 	3.6% 	$2,350,000 	$629 	0.2%<br />
San Francisco 	94123 	26 	18.2% 	$1,485,000 	<b>-5.4%</b> 	$5,050,000 	$1,150 	-25.5% <i>This is Marina, a zip I would have expected to stay in the RBA</i><br />
San Francisco 	94124 	12 	-45.5% 	$486,750 	<b>-28.8%</b> 	$1,200,000 	$436 	-7.2%<br />
San Francisco 	94127 	14 	-26.3% 	$1,220,500 	<b>-3.9%</b> 	$2,200,000 	$756 	1.0%<br />
San Francisco 	94131 	27 	-22.9% 	$952,250 	<b>-1.6%</b> 	$2,200,000 	$771 	-20.6%<br />
San Francisco 	94132 	15 	36.4% 	$673,500 	1.7% 	$1,320,000 	$530 	-2.2%<br />
San Francisco 	94133 	6 	-40.0% 	$700,000 	<b>-23.9%</b> 	$1,000,000 	n/a 	n/a<br />
San Francisco 	94134 	18 	-50.0% 	$540,000 	<b>-0.6%</b> 	$630,000 	$406 	-19.1%</p>
<p>Run that by me again about San Francisco real estate being bulletproof?</p>
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		<title>By: MSG</title>
		<link>http://www.burbed.com/2008/06/06/san-francisco-economy-is-bulletproof-oakland-has-carjacking-problems/#comment-18752</link>
		<dc:creator>MSG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 09:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OOps, i&#039;m an idiot.  Oakland does not best SF in murders per capita.  Geezus, brain was not working this afternoon.  Oakland has twice the murders per capita as SF does.  Okay, fuck that, not moving to Oakland...

Well, you guys can talk about the BA&#039;s economy being bulletproof, but I remember 2000-2002 and it wasn&#039;t pretty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OOps, i&#8217;m an idiot.  Oakland does not best SF in murders per capita.  Geezus, brain was not working this afternoon.  Oakland has twice the murders per capita as SF does.  Okay, fuck that, not moving to Oakland&#8230;</p>
<p>Well, you guys can talk about the BA&#8217;s economy being bulletproof, but I remember 2000-2002 and it wasn&#8217;t pretty.</p>
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