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	<title>Comments on: Affordable fixer-upper in Palo Alto &#8211; now you can stop crying at night</title>
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		<title>By: Price hike! Price hike! 1111 Alma! Thank goodness! &#124; SF Bay Area Home Price and Mortgage Insanity Blog - Burbed.com</title>
		<link>http://www.burbed.com/2008/06/10/affordable-fixer-upper-in-palo-alto-now-you-can-stop-crying-at-night/#comment-8970</link>
		<dc:creator>Price hike! Price hike! 1111 Alma! Thank goodness! &#124; SF Bay Area Home Price and Mortgage Insanity Blog - Burbed.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 13:11:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] hike! Price hike! 1111 Alma! Thank goodness!    Affordable fixer-upper in Palo Alto - now you can stop crying at night &#124; SF Bay Area Home Price and ... June 10, [...] </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] hike! Price hike! 1111 Alma! Thank goodness!    Affordable fixer-upper in Palo Alto &#8211; now you can stop crying at night | SF Bay Area Home Price and &#8230; June 10, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 10:47:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Down to $850,000.

Still a $62,000 appreciation in 2 years, if they get asking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Down to $850,000.</p>
<p>Still a $62,000 appreciation in 2 years, if they get asking.</p>
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		<title>By: nomadic</title>
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		<dc:creator>nomadic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:00:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To appeal my taxes, I was able to find 3-4 homes that sold in the area for a lower $/sf and ignored the others.  I included the MLS listings with the descriptions too, so I could point out that a couple were remodeled or had a newly refurbished pool while mine did not.  (The house wasn&#039;t remodeled yet when I did the appeal...)  I did a little calculation for each comparable like you see on an appraisal.  Adding some amount for a better lot or for remodeling, subtracting if necessary too.

I got the 9.7% reduction I requested in 2006.  And then when the city-wide reductions came through in 2007, it went down some more.  My latest assessment was unchanged.  The funny thing is, I wouldn&#039;t have bothered appealing if they had left my assessment flat from 2005 to 2006, but the increase ticked me off.  I bought the place pretty near the peak in 2005 so if you&#039;ve owned your house for awhile, prop. 13 will make it tough for you to argue for an even lower valuation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To appeal my taxes, I was able to find 3-4 homes that sold in the area for a lower $/sf and ignored the others.  I included the MLS listings with the descriptions too, so I could point out that a couple were remodeled or had a newly refurbished pool while mine did not.  (The house wasn&#8217;t remodeled yet when I did the appeal&#8230;)  I did a little calculation for each comparable like you see on an appraisal.  Adding some amount for a better lot or for remodeling, subtracting if necessary too.</p>
<p>I got the 9.7% reduction I requested in 2006.  And then when the city-wide reductions came through in 2007, it went down some more.  My latest assessment was unchanged.  The funny thing is, I wouldn&#8217;t have bothered appealing if they had left my assessment flat from 2005 to 2006, but the increase ticked me off.  I bought the place pretty near the peak in 2005 so if you&#8217;ve owned your house for awhile, prop. 13 will make it tough for you to argue for an even lower valuation.</p>
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		<title>By: WillowGlenner</title>
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		<dc:creator>WillowGlenner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:36:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Er, I want to appeal the property tax basis for ANOTHER house, not the 420K house.  I am a RE investor.  I have another house in willow glen that has a property tax basis of 810K which is $455 sq ft- San Jose did lower the tax basis on this house by 30K, but thats not enough.  2 houses closeby just sold for 699K which is also what I think my house is worth, so thats 110K off my current prop tax base.  The problem is those houses have less square footage but one is a larger lot than mine, the other on a slightly better street.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Er, I want to appeal the property tax basis for ANOTHER house, not the 420K house.  I am a RE investor.  I have another house in willow glen that has a property tax basis of 810K which is $455 sq ft- San Jose did lower the tax basis on this house by 30K, but thats not enough.  2 houses closeby just sold for 699K which is also what I think my house is worth, so thats 110K off my current prop tax base.  The problem is those houses have less square footage but one is a larger lot than mine, the other on a slightly better street.</p>
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		<title>By: San Mateo Home Sellers in Trouble</title>
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		<dc:creator>San Mateo Home Sellers in Trouble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 08:41:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s so funny, I wrote about the &quot;it&#039;s better for the kids&quot; lie people tell me too: http://baglady.dreamhosters.com/2008/05/29/are-we-meant-to-be-homeowners/

Additionally, I found out that my rent is actually cheaper than rent prices in 2000:
http://baglady.dreamhosters.com/2008/06/10/how-fair-is-my-rent/

So why would anyone buy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s so funny, I wrote about the &#8220;it&#8217;s better for the kids&#8221; lie people tell me too: <a href="http://baglady.dreamhosters.com/2008/05/29/are-we-meant-to-be-homeowners/" rel="nofollow">http://baglady.dreamhosters.com/2008/05/29/are-we-meant-to-be-homeowners/</a></p>
<p>Additionally, I found out that my rent is actually cheaper than rent prices in 2000:<br />
<a href="http://baglady.dreamhosters.com/2008/06/10/how-fair-is-my-rent/" rel="nofollow">http://baglady.dreamhosters.com/2008/06/10/how-fair-is-my-rent/</a></p>
<p>So why would anyone buy?</p>
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		<title>By: Er</title>
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		<dc:creator>Er</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 06:01:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WillowGlenner,

Your property tax basis will be $420K if that&#039;s what you&#039;re paying.

What do you want to appeal?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WillowGlenner,</p>
<p>Your property tax basis will be $420K if that&#8217;s what you&#8217;re paying.</p>
<p>What do you want to appeal?</p>
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		<title>By: WillowGlenner</title>
		<link>http://www.burbed.com/2008/06/10/affordable-fixer-upper-in-palo-alto-now-you-can-stop-crying-at-night/#comment-8964</link>
		<dc:creator>WillowGlenner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 05:10:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nomadic, what did you use to appeal your tax assessment?  I would like to appeal mine, but the problem is 2 houses sold closeby for more $ per square feet than my house.  Thats because these 2 houses are smaller than mine by a few hundred feet and in those cases, you ALWAYS pay more per square feet.  I don&#039;t know how to find &quot;evidence&quot; that my particular house has fallen in value other than median price per sq ft in the zipcode or very close by home sales.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nomadic, what did you use to appeal your tax assessment?  I would like to appeal mine, but the problem is 2 houses sold closeby for more $ per square feet than my house.  Thats because these 2 houses are smaller than mine by a few hundred feet and in those cases, you ALWAYS pay more per square feet.  I don&#8217;t know how to find &#8220;evidence&#8221; that my particular house has fallen in value other than median price per sq ft in the zipcode or very close by home sales.</p>
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		<title>By: Real Estater</title>
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		<dc:creator>Real Estater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 05:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WillowGlenner,

Good move. Congratulations! Is this property in Campbell, where you were interested?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WillowGlenner,</p>
<p>Good move. Congratulations! Is this property in Campbell, where you were interested?</p>
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		<title>By: nomadic</title>
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		<dc:creator>nomadic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 04:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing I noticed about Zillow: I appealed my tax assessment and won - resulting in a HUGE drop in my Zillow &quot;value.&quot;  Just because I save some money on taxes doesn&#039;t mean my house is worth less than the neighbor&#039;s.  (Especially since mine is fully up-to-date and theirs are not.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing I noticed about Zillow: I appealed my tax assessment and won &#8211; resulting in a HUGE drop in my Zillow &#8220;value.&#8221;  Just because I save some money on taxes doesn&#8217;t mean my house is worth less than the neighbor&#8217;s.  (Especially since mine is fully up-to-date and theirs are not.)</p>
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		<title>By: WillowGlenner</title>
		<link>http://www.burbed.com/2008/06/10/affordable-fixer-upper-in-palo-alto-now-you-can-stop-crying-at-night/#comment-8961</link>
		<dc:creator>WillowGlenner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 23:39:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am in escrow on a bank foreclosure for 420K that has a zestimate of 657K, or a 56% premium on my buy price thanks to Zillow.  It will be interesting to see what my buy does to the zestimates in that neighborhood.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am in escrow on a bank foreclosure for 420K that has a zestimate of 657K, or a 56% premium on my buy price thanks to Zillow.  It will be interesting to see what my buy does to the zestimates in that neighborhood.</p>
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