Comments on: Which will be the next area to gentrify? http://www.burbed.com/2008/08/02/which-will-be-the-next-area-to-gentrify/ San Francisco Bay Area, Silicon Valley House Price and Mortgage Insanity Blog Wed, 08 Feb 2012 22:43:53 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: auto insurance pa http://www.burbed.com/2008/08/02/which-will-be-the-next-area-to-gentrify/#comment-12640 auto insurance pa Fri, 29 Aug 2008 22:59:38 +0000 http://www.burbed.com/?p=2111#comment-12640 <strong>auto insurance pa...</strong> dash phone digital?glittering rifles ... auto insurance pa…

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]]> By: Renter4 http://www.burbed.com/2008/08/02/which-will-be-the-next-area-to-gentrify/#comment-12639 Renter4 Tue, 05 Aug 2008 06:23:17 +0000 http://www.burbed.com/?p=2111#comment-12639 Sorry, should've clarified that: white-collar couples w/ high earning potential, who chose to live in EPA for the big yard. Sorry, should’ve clarified that: white-collar couples w/ high earning potential, who chose to live in EPA for the big yard.

]]> By: Renter4 http://www.burbed.com/2008/08/02/which-will-be-the-next-area-to-gentrify/#comment-12638 Renter4 Tue, 05 Aug 2008 06:22:09 +0000 http://www.burbed.com/?p=2111#comment-12638 I think there's hope for EPA, actually... I dunno about the hipsters, but the earnest are certainly on their way in. I've met at least two couples who lived there. I think there’s hope for EPA, actually… I dunno about the hipsters, but the earnest are certainly on their way in. I’ve met at least two couples who lived there.

]]> By: Ross http://www.burbed.com/2008/08/02/which-will-be-the-next-area-to-gentrify/#comment-12637 Ross Mon, 04 Aug 2008 20:41:32 +0000 http://www.burbed.com/?p=2111#comment-12637 Gentrification will continue to take place in areas converted from commercial and industrial to residential, e.g. north San Jose, the 101 corridor through east San Jose. The flea market and fairgrounds will both fall to condos. This process has the advantage of avoiding the need to displace existing populations. The difficulties that will be encountered are already evident in the Rivermark area: lack of adequate retail and public spaces (parks, schools, libraries, community centers). San Jose is trying to convince developers of new commercial mid-rises to include retail, but the developers don't seem inclined to play along. I could understand how it might be difficult to land a high-profile venture-backed Internet startup as a tenant when you have a Wal-Mart on the ground floor. Treasure Island is a prime candidate for gentrification; it has the potential to be another West Seattle. But the anti-development camps have managed to keep anything from happening for over a decade. So it remains a mix of public housing and decaying Navy-era structures. I feel sorry for the people who have to live there, because there is not a single retail establishment on the entire island, not even an over-priced mini-mart. Gentrification will continue to take place in areas converted from commercial and industrial to residential, e.g. north San Jose, the 101 corridor through east San Jose. The flea market and fairgrounds will both fall to condos. This process has the advantage of avoiding the need to displace existing populations. The difficulties that will be encountered are already evident in the Rivermark area: lack of adequate retail and public spaces (parks, schools, libraries, community centers). San Jose is trying to convince developers of new commercial mid-rises to include retail, but the developers don’t seem inclined to play along. I could understand how it might be difficult to land a high-profile venture-backed Internet startup as a tenant when you have a Wal-Mart on the ground floor.

Treasure Island is a prime candidate for gentrification; it has the potential to be another West Seattle. But the anti-development camps have managed to keep anything from happening for over a decade. So it remains a mix of public housing and decaying Navy-era structures. I feel sorry for the people who have to live there, because there is not a single retail establishment on the entire island, not even an over-priced mini-mart.

]]> By: Nicole http://www.burbed.com/2008/08/02/which-will-be-the-next-area-to-gentrify/#comment-12636 Nicole Sun, 03 Aug 2008 23:20:07 +0000 http://www.burbed.com/?p=2111#comment-12636 I agree that EPA is safer, still dangerous but much better. PA would love to gentrify EPA, kick all the poor people out and build mansions. I've been to the "compounds" as well - where they claim to want to help EPA improve but then send their kids to private schools and hire their own security force. not that I blame them, just prefer they don't pretend otherwise. If you have the time and energy, and your kids are a minority, you can still get scholarships for pricey schools who need minority scholarship kids. There is a population who still remembers how EPA used to be (before the crime) and want to make it a safe but affordable place for the people who live there. I hope that happens before gentrification. I agree that EPA is safer, still dangerous but much better. PA would love to gentrify EPA, kick all the poor people out and build mansions. I’ve been to the “compounds” as well – where they claim to want to help EPA improve but then send their kids to private schools and hire their own security force. not that I blame them, just prefer they don’t pretend otherwise. If you have the time and energy, and your kids are a minority, you can still get scholarships for pricey schools who need minority scholarship kids.

There is a population who still remembers how EPA used to be (before the crime) and want to make it a safe but affordable place for the people who live there. I hope that happens before gentrification.

]]> By: Herve http://www.burbed.com/2008/08/02/which-will-be-the-next-area-to-gentrify/#comment-12635 Herve Sun, 03 Aug 2008 19:23:32 +0000 http://www.burbed.com/?p=2111#comment-12635 <i>> It’s only a matter of time before someone buys out that burned-out strip mall on Donohoe and tries to make it something..</i> And when it is done, it will only be a matter of time before it is burned down again :) > It’s only a matter of time before someone buys out that burned-out strip mall on Donohoe and tries to make it something..

And when it is done, it will only be a matter of time before it is burned down again :)

]]> By: sonarrat http://www.burbed.com/2008/08/02/which-will-be-the-next-area-to-gentrify/#comment-12634 sonarrat Sun, 03 Aug 2008 18:13:07 +0000 http://www.burbed.com/?p=2111#comment-12634 <i>I would not buy in EPA, but more because it has no downtown and no local shops; I like old-line suburbs with a walkable downtown.</i> It's only a matter of time before someone buys out that burned-out strip mall on Donohoe and tries to make it something.. I would not buy in EPA, but more because it has no downtown and no local shops; I like old-line suburbs with a walkable downtown.

It’s only a matter of time before someone buys out that burned-out strip mall on Donohoe and tries to make it something..

]]> By: Sprezzatura http://www.burbed.com/2008/08/02/which-will-be-the-next-area-to-gentrify/#comment-12633 Sprezzatura Sun, 03 Aug 2008 17:32:12 +0000 http://www.burbed.com/?p=2111#comment-12633 I know some people in EPA who bought a few blocks from IKEA. No kids, so no worries about the school issue. Other than a postage-stamp-sized lot the place is nice. I've never felt worried for myself or my car when visiting there but I also haven't gone exploring much beyond the route back to the highway. I would not buy in EPA, but more because it has no downtown and no local shops; I like old-line suburbs with a walkable downtown. I know some people in EPA who bought a few blocks from IKEA. No kids, so no worries about the school issue. Other than a postage-stamp-sized lot the place is nice. I’ve never felt worried for myself or my car when visiting there but I also haven’t gone exploring much beyond the route back to the highway.

I would not buy in EPA, but more because it has no downtown and no local shops; I like old-line suburbs with a walkable downtown.

]]> By: Rocket http://www.burbed.com/2008/08/02/which-will-be-the-next-area-to-gentrify/#comment-12632 Rocket Sun, 03 Aug 2008 13:49:16 +0000 http://www.burbed.com/?p=2111#comment-12632 Yes, it has to be done with permits. The one group I know personally that did it designed their own houses and built it themselves. Here are some places on Euclid Avenue in EPA: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Euclid+Ave+%4037.466724,+-122.143207&ie=UTF8&ll=37.466724,-122.143207&spn=0.002022,0.004131&t=h&z=19 Here is a candidate in EPA for a two house compound: http://www.redfin.com/CA/East-Palo-Alto/2216-EUCLID-Ave-94303/home/1892607 Yes, it has to be done with permits. The one group I know personally that did it designed their own houses and built it themselves.

Here are some places on Euclid Avenue in EPA:

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Euclid+Ave+%4037.466724,+-122.143207&ie=UTF8&ll=37.466724,-122.143207&spn=0.002022,0.004131&t=h&z=19

Here is a candidate in EPA for a two house compound:

http://www.redfin.com/CA/East-Palo-Alto/2216-EUCLID-Ave-94303/home/1892607

]]> By: nomadic http://www.burbed.com/2008/08/02/which-will-be-the-next-area-to-gentrify/#comment-12631 nomadic Sun, 03 Aug 2008 08:20:48 +0000 http://www.burbed.com/?p=2111#comment-12631 "Name" - I've seen rentals in that area. They ran about $2500/month a couple of months ago. Too bad; that certainly wouldn't make them cash-flow positive. “Name” – I’ve seen rentals in that area. They ran about $2500/month a couple of months ago. Too bad; that certainly wouldn’t make them cash-flow positive.

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