A fine pink house in Sunnyvale for just $1.2 million
312 S Pastoria Ave, Sunnyvale, CA 94086 Sunnyvale MLS# 80787363 – Property Details
$1,219,000
* Status: Active
* Bedroom: 4
* Bathroom: 3
* Year Built: 2005
* Lot Size: 5800
* Square Footage: 1992
* List Date: 3/27/2008* Garage Spaces: 2
VERY GOOD CONDITION HOME,REBUILT,EXPANDED RECENTLY W/ ALL NEW MATERIALS,OLD HOUSE COMPLETELY DEMOLISHED.HOMESTEAD HI-SCHOOL,WALK TO WASHINGTON PARK,STRATFORD SCHOOL,LIBRARY,CITY HALL,BUS LINE,NEW SUNNYVALE MALL.FEATURES STAINLESS APPLIANCES,GRANITE KITCHEN COUNTERS,MODERN KITCHEN CABINETS,PLANTATION SHUTTERS,ALL HARDWOOD FLOORS,BATHROOMS W/MARBLE/GRANITE FLOORS & WALLS,CROWN MOULDINGS. COME & SEE.
Burbed reader nomadic thinks that I have some sort of pink house obsession, just like how some other think I have a Tenafly obsession. That’s really not the case, but let’s just look at this amazing house.
First, you should know that this house was built pink – and with all new materials too!
Second, you should know that this is $612 per square foot – definitely in Real Bay Area.
Finally, it’s right near the new sunnyvale mall. Now, here in Silicon Valley, we’re used to everything being in Alpha or Beta – so this should not surprise anyone that it is a pre-announce.
All in all, a typical price for a very untypical house color.
Just waiting to be overbid if you ask me…
October 27th, 2008 at 6:34 am
I can still hear the obnoxious voice in my head from when I was riding the 22 regularly.. “El Camino and Hollenbeck/Pastoria!” I’m just trying to imagine who would buy this. Sunnyvale isn’t all that bad, but it’s totally dead. I’ve never heard anyone tell me they wanted to live in S’vale.
October 27th, 2008 at 7:46 am
sonarrat,
Sunnyvale is good for families. What is “dead” to you means “quiet” and “peaceful” for others. Sunnyvale is also safe and moderately affordable. I’d say Sunnyvale beats most parts of San Jose as well as similarly priced portions of San Mateo County.
October 27th, 2008 at 8:21 am
Somewhat OT, but possible good one for Burbed to highlight;
13601 MYREN DR, Saratoga 95070 (Saratoga)
Saratoga schools for $949k!!
The photos are something to see.
October 27th, 2008 at 8:43 am
Don’t worry…one of the original Google janitors will snatch this up in no time!
*
For those of you who didn’t hit the lottery working for Google, you only need a downpayment of $469k plus a documented household income of $250k/year to afford this beauty.
October 27th, 2008 at 9:06 am
SiO2 – wow, that’s the first time I’ve seen pictures of the NEIGHBORS houses in a listing! Here’s a link for you guys who don’t want to look it up:
http://www.redfin.com/CA/Saratoga/13601-MYREN-Dr-95070/home/1119535
October 27th, 2008 at 9:15 am
>>wow, that’s the first time I’ve seen pictures of the NEIGHBORS houses in a listing!
That’s probably the single most important factor when you’re selling for land value. As a seller you want to show people the possibilities, sort of like staging.
October 27th, 2008 at 9:54 am
This house is on the wrong side of El Camino (which is why it’s on Pastoria rather than Hollenbeck), but the right side of Matilda (Homestead vs Fremont high school). I think it’s overbuilt for the area, but if those shopping center/downtown projects ever work out, maybe I’m wrong. Doubt it, though. I’ve attached some comments at a venture capital meeting that I think you all ought to read.
sonarrat, Sunnyvale is boring for singles but a very good place for families. It’s a well-run city, in fact it was constantly winning awards for the quality and breadth of the services offered. I cannot think of anywhere in San Jose that’s better except for the Dry Creek Road area, there is nothing like that in Sunnyvale. Homes in the CUSD area are more expensive in Sunnyvale than San Jose with equivalent home and lot sizes, because Sunnyvale is closer to more jobs, services, and entertainment. Culturally, Sunnyvale’s pretty dead, you can find better versions of most of what it offers elsewhere (not in suburban San Jose, though). There is nothing like Kepler’s, that’s for sure. I think that may be the one thing making me want to move further northwest, I’m blowing off too many Kepler’s lectures.
Anyway, we were very happy to buy in Sunnyvale rather than San Jose, and I had lives on the Peninsula too. Cupertino had to cut back library hours during one of the recessions, Sunnyvale never did.
Okay, here’s the email on VC and the recession:
October 27th, 2008 at 10:13 am
The color is not the problem. The economy is not the problem. The problems are the small lot size and the huge price tag. Most homes in the area max out in the 800K range.
October 27th, 2008 at 11:40 am
Sure, RE, for that house you are correct. It’s been on the market more than 200 days with only a $20k price cut.
madhaus, that’s been all over the blogs. Here’s a link if you want to see the slides for yourself:
http://venturebeat.com/2008/10/10/the-sequoia-rip-good-times-presentation-get-your-copy-here/
Sounds awfully bleak!
October 27th, 2008 at 12:02 pm
Some claim it is unjustifiably bleak – so as to strong arm the startups in to better (for the VC) financial terms in negotiations.
October 27th, 2008 at 2:38 pm
Do you guys really want to listen to Madhaus? She bet on the wrong horse by putting her investments overseas.
A clear winner from the current economic crisis is the rising U.S. dollar.
It will be harder than ever for her to upgrade her home now.
October 27th, 2008 at 2:46 pm
To put things in perspective this article explains why what we’re seeing now is nothing unusual for tech. Some quotes:
“Tough economic times loom, and the natural reaction is to assume a kind of economic bunker mentality. It’s hard to focus on the likes of Google, Apple, and other tech all-stars with solid fundamentals, when every “expert” is screaming that a storm is coming, and the time has come to weatherproof your portfolio.”
“Tech investors have seen this kind of thing plenty of times before.”
“Having been in Silicon Valley for almost 20 years, I became a student of the nauseating boom and bust cycles that sickened chip stock investors. The entire industry hinged on the spending whims of IT managers looking to upgrade their hardware. But those steep peaks and valleys began to level out as high-end technologies trickled their way into the consumer consciousness.”
“It’s easy to look at the markets now and write off every investment. But in this time of best-of-breed companies with amazingly strong balance sheets ”
“And now might be a good time to remember that the sun will shine again on your portfolio.”
October 27th, 2008 at 2:48 pm
A tactful change of subject, see
by one whose sight is short as can be.
the dollar bubble will pop some day
and when it does, madhaus shall be far away
October 27th, 2008 at 3:04 pm
What change of subject? Did you see post #12?
October 27th, 2008 at 3:16 pm
Well, in my business, consumer spending is down almost 40% this year. (Granted, this is a non-essential, discretionary purchase in a niche market.) My good friend who works for one of the largest contract manufacturers in the world says they expect business to be down 10-20% next year.
Sure, things will get better. If wishes were fishes, and all that. Just don’t expect a big improvement in the next six months. Some optimists think we’ll be growing again in the second half of 2009.
October 27th, 2008 at 3:52 pm
Actually our overseas accounts are up this month. Does Chuckie claim to know which countries we keep our accounts in? I think it’s time we hear from the littlest Chucksters again.
Chuckie, Jr: I’m going to the boys’ room. Sign me out.
Teacher: Chuckie, you are interrupting class time. Just sign your name on the whiteboard.
Chuckie, Jr: My dad’s taxes pay for your job, so you sign me out. You’re a civil servant.
Teacher: Chuckie, that was rude and disruptive. You will be staying after school.
Gifted and Talented Palo Alto Kid: Oooh, third time this week! And it’s Wednesday!
GATPAK #2: Chuckie’s in trouble! Chuckie’s in trouble!
Chuckie, Jr: Shut up, you losers!
Teacher: Amery, Broderick, please. Chuckie, you get a zero for this morning.
GATPAKs: Ooooooooh!
Chuckie, Jr: You can’t do that. My dad is so going to sue your butt.
Teacher: Chuckie, you will now go to the principal’s office. You will spend the rest of the day there, including after school. I’m calling Mrs. P now.
CJ: Noooooooo!
T: Now, Chuckie, or a zero for this afternoon too.
CJ: Noooooooo!
GATPAKsHa ha!
Teacher: What’s the matter with the rest of you? Chuckie can’t seem to help himself. Why are you making fun of him? Usually you are the most thoughtful and helpful classroom!
GATPAK #3: He deserves it.
GATPAK #4: I usually have loads of empathy but not for him.
GATPAK #5: It’s hard to feel for someone who keeps calling us losers.
Teacher Good point.
October 27th, 2008 at 4:06 pm
>>Does Chuckie claim to know which countries we keep our accounts in?
There are only 2 possilities:
1. A country with currency that weakens with the rising dollar — madhaus loses.
2. A country with currency that strengthens with the rising dollar — Might as well be in U.S. dollar; useless strategy for madhaus.
October 27th, 2008 at 4:09 pm
hey, that looks like a tautology
from the man well schooled in realestatology.
Therefore: buy american real estate.
October 27th, 2008 at 4:18 pm
chuckie fails to see
another distinct possibility
which is the existance of a currency
whose exhange rate may sometimes rise and sometimes fall
nope, no way. the chuckster cannot see at all.
October 27th, 2008 at 4:50 pm
“What change of subject? Did you see post #12?”
a classic argument technique
often employed by the weak
attack the prologue, not the substance
Anyone understand this? Chuckie doesn’t.
October 27th, 2008 at 5:00 pm
>>another distinct possibility which is the existance of a currency whose exhange rate may sometimes rise and sometimes fall
Various typos and grammatical errors aside (currency “whose”?), how does this benefit madhaus? She invested overseas in an attempt to gain an advantage over those who are investing state-side. If that alternate currency merely goes up and down, how does that help madhaus achieve her objective?
October 27th, 2008 at 5:08 pm
RE is right, the dollar is rising. Of course the dollar has been destroyed in the past few years so it is bouncing off the bottom of a really deep vase, so to speak. It depends on when people moved their money overseas.
October 27th, 2008 at 5:10 pm
If you’re going to be the grammar police, at least be accurate, for pete’s sake.
From dictionary.com under “whose”:
2. (the possessive case of which used as an adjective): a word whose meaning escapes me; an animal whose fur changes color.
October 27th, 2008 at 5:27 pm
I think RE is making the point about the dollar rising because of the fast rise to it.
From 11/25/2005 to 7/21/2008 The dollar dropped 26% relative to the euro, in the last 3 months the dollar has surged 25% relative to the euro.
The yen though is kicking the dollar’s ass, when I went to Japan I could get over 120 yen per dollar, now it is only 93 yen to the dollar. I have been contemplating going to Spain on vacation now that the euro is below $1.25.
October 27th, 2008 at 5:28 pm
yes, that’s right – a “currency whose”
a noun possessing a certain trait.
even grammar attacks you lose,
not a single valid argument can you create.
You still don’t see.
What ever currency it may be,
It’s a lack of ties to the US economy.
October 27th, 2008 at 5:35 pm
f you’re going to be the grammar police, at least be accurate, for pete’s sake.
From dictionary.com under “whose”:
2. (the possessive case of which used as an adjective): a word whose meaning escapes me; an animal whose fur changes color.
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Nomadic,
It’s all about convenience. If Chuckie makes similar mistake, it’s not Chuckie’s fault. Afterall he is Chuckie. How could he make mistake! Simply not possible. If there is a typo in Chuckie’s comment,
- either it’s public school’s fault.
- or lack of tolerance from our part.
October 27th, 2008 at 5:41 pm
Pralay,
If a currency is a “who”, then you are a “which”.
October 27th, 2008 at 5:46 pm
the common meaning thrown in his face
he resorts to insults – what a disgrace.
October 27th, 2008 at 5:47 pm
Chuckie,
“Who” and “whose” are not same thing. Even a public school fourth grader would know it.
Of course, “who” and “whose” could be same in Realtor’s dictionary.
October 27th, 2008 at 5:59 pm
is spain good to go in january? my coworker is raving about how cheap the hotels are. but i think that it is because it is freezing there.
October 27th, 2008 at 6:20 pm
is spain good to go in january? my coworker is raving about how cheap the hotels are. but i think that it is because it is freezing there.
Madrid, Seville, Barcelona?
Madrid is a few degrees colder than say Belmont, like 6-7, so it is just at freezing average on the lows.
Barcelona is only 1 or 2 degrees colder on the high, but is one degree higher on the low.
Seville is about 3 degrees warmer on the high and low.
These are all averages, I’ve never been to Spain but I hear the weather is similar to here, so I would suspect if you go in winter there would be occasional rain. I would have the advantage of being able to read and speak the language, don’t ask me to write it though.
October 27th, 2008 at 6:37 pm
A pink house obsession? That’s maybe too strong of a word. No, I think burbed just has a harmless pink house fetish.
October 27th, 2008 at 8:22 pm
nomadic, that was really some ad, I would say the realtard is really a shameless bastard, show you dead grass and show some model house. That is a dream for someone, but not his effing business, he is selling a lot with dead grass.
October 27th, 2008 at 9:23 pm
>>“Who” and “whose” are not same thing. Even a public school fourth grader would know it.
Pralay,
Would there be a “whose” without a “who”? What did they teach you when you got your free education?
October 27th, 2008 at 9:27 pm
>>nomadic, that was really some ad, I would say the realtard is really a shameless bastard,
Hold on hear. Aren’t you blaming the messenger? It is the seller who is selling the house. The realtor is a facilitator of the transaction. The reason you are priced out is not because of the realtor, but because of the other buyers who are willing to pay what you cannot pay.
October 27th, 2008 at 9:40 pm
A deeper grave he doth dig
is it because his ego is so big?
don’t get me started on his use of hear
to him the rules of grammar are not clear
priced out from what others will pay?
Dare I say – there is no way
too many bought with hopes
to sell for more another day
they shall soon find themselves
living in a self-wrought hell
October 27th, 2008 at 9:45 pm
“Hold on hear.”
Looks who’s giving lessons now.
October 27th, 2008 at 9:46 pm
DreamT,
Will you focus on the discussions instead of dwelling on typos?
October 27th, 2008 at 9:49 pm
Yes, DreamT
its time you face reality
Chucks statements elude accountability.
can we get back to discussing something real estate-y?
October 27th, 2008 at 9:57 pm
anon,
What happened to you? Did you get into an automobile accident?
October 27th, 2008 at 10:08 pm
The discussion is so boring despite anon’s prose, that I took upon myself to make typos of my own.
Anyway here’s what I’ve learned so far today. If you’ve been to Stanford, you might well make typos. But if you’ve been to public school only, they’re called grammatical errors instead. So it’s well worth the effort of moving to PA, so that you get a headstart by being well-rounded in a 94301-fashion (not 95051-type well-rounded, mind you).
Hope your day was more interesting than your contributions on this thread.
October 27th, 2008 at 10:11 pm
> The discussion is so boring
Allow me to make it less boring then.
After the soccer fields, Halloween is under attack in Shallow Alto (read the comments).
October 27th, 2008 at 10:18 pm
I think “anon” has turned into an Oompa Loompa!
And it is truly amazing how RE is still insisting that Pralay is wrong, just because (or in spite of the fact that) Pralay referenced my definition of “whose.” RE – learn one thing today. Look it up (#2):
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/whose
Herve – dumb ordinance, but I like it. I hate when older kids ring the doorbell after the porch light goes off. Even worse when they don’t even dress up. Totally spoils the spirit of Halloween.
October 27th, 2008 at 10:34 pm
I think it’s worth pointing it out: the house has a column fully erected so I guess like Friday’s house it is happy to see us.
October 27th, 2008 at 10:35 pm
And it is truly amazing how RE is still insisting that Pralay is wrong, just because (or in spite of the fact that) Pralay referenced my definition of “whose.” RE – learn one thing today. Look it up (#2):
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/whose
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Chuckie does not look at dictionary. He makes words and their meanings up.
If 94301 had any prestige at all, it is very apparent that it is losing rapidly due to a “well-rounded” resident.
October 27th, 2008 at 10:45 pm
Pralay, I must change your prose
I prefer how this flows:
Chuckie does not reference the dictionary. The dictionary references Chuckie.
October 27th, 2008 at 10:47 pm
Pralay,
Summerhill homes doesn’t appear to be too concerned.
October 27th, 2008 at 11:01 pm
Neither does Gables End.
October 27th, 2008 at 11:03 pm
Pralay, I must change your prose
I prefer how this flows:
Chuckie does not reference the dictionary. The dictionary references Chuckie.
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Hmmmm. Noah Webster. And then Chuckster.
Webster & Chuckster – true American lexicographers.
October 27th, 2008 at 11:30 pm
Pralay,
I’m trying to look back and locate a single post written by you that is related to real estate. I’m not able to find one. Could you show a link?
October 27th, 2008 at 11:37 pm
Foothills and Soccer and Hal. Lo. Ween.
Yes, vans of underprivileged youths are swarming Old Palo Alto, going to get the good candy before the neighborhood kids come near your house! The horror of it all!
I love the solution: give out cruddy candy and drive them back to the soccer fields.
October 27th, 2008 at 11:42 pm
I’m trying to look back and locate a single post written by you that is related to real estate. I’m not able to find one. Could you show a link?
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Guys, who promoted Chuckie to burbed moderator again so that I have to answer him?
October 27th, 2008 at 11:47 pm
The horror of it all!
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Wow, it seems only PA residents are privileged of this kind of reallllllllll scary Halloween. Not a fake one with children in Micky and Mini Mouse costumes. Definitely a good reason for moving to PA.
October 27th, 2008 at 11:56 pm
Nowhere in the archives do I see
a single post by RE
that has any correlation with reality.
October 28th, 2008 at 12:04 am
the bloody spam protection device unit item thingy is preventing me from posting in the Mayfield thread.
October 28th, 2008 at 12:09 am
Nowhere in the archives do I see
a single post by RE
that has any correlation with reality.
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But he has prestigious zipcode, subzero refrigerator, porsche, 2 well-round(head) kids, trophy wife (she does laundry though) and mega-project.
And he stayed in Holiday Express Inn.
October 28th, 2008 at 12:11 am
I completely understand the sentiments expressed in the Halloween link. Same problem as unwelcomed usage of the parks.
October 28th, 2008 at 12:15 am
Burbed Contest — Open to all
Guess when Pralay will write a real-estate related post.
Winner gets to water his lawn!
October 28th, 2008 at 12:24 am
He he! I take Chuckie’s irritation as complement.
Can we say it’s all Google’s fault?
October 28th, 2008 at 12:27 am
multiple posts that are real estate related
numerous times Pralay has advocated
buy real estate now
I am a big fat cow.
October 28th, 2008 at 12:49 am
for the record, the ‘I’ above = anon. (this particular one)
October 28th, 2008 at 1:47 am
posting unrelated topic because g-dd-mn it, I still can’t post in Mayfield thread due to spam protection crud
this is the college discussion tied in with real estate, and what I wrote (and couldn’t post there).
October 28th, 2008 at 7:18 am
Madhaus,
About a dozen kids from my class at Gunn went to Stanford, and roughly the same number went from Paly. Stretching a guess, ~40 kids went to Harvard/Yale/Duke/Princeton/Dartmouth/MIT/etc from Gunn, I’d guess a similar number went from Paly. That makes it ~100 kids from each class of 1000. So yeah, the majority of Gunn/Paly students don’t go to top tier schools (but the majority of honors-tracked students do).
On the other hand, of the non-honors tracked students almost all of them end up going to good colleges. Droves to Berkeley and Davis and UCLA, less to other UCs and Arizona, Washington, Oregon, etc.
The point is that Palo Alto schools don’t guarantee entry into a top tier undergrad institution, but it comes pretty close to a guarantee to entry into a decent college. Not many public schools around here can offer that.
October 28th, 2008 at 7:44 am
anon, Pralay,
Any more questions?
October 28th, 2008 at 8:05 am
OK. I got one: Can you really expect your kids to gain admission to a top tier university if you yourself are unable to get into a top school district?
If you think about that, it should be obvious why properties in the top school districts hold their values so well. You’re children’s future is one of those non-negotiable aspects for most “professional” families. Thus, there’s competition to get into certain zips just as there’s competition to get into Stanford.
October 28th, 2008 at 8:25 am
Indeed- tech just like any other industry has ups and downs. But all bets are off the table when something like this latest credit bust hits. This bust is taking down some of the largest companies in the world. Namely a large number of banks and lending institutions, various industrial companies like GM, Ford, Maytag, Chrysler, and countless other manufacturing firms, retail corporations, and the list goes on and on.
The important thing to remember about all of this is that while many of these aren’t tech, the tech industry relies on mainly non-tech bread and butter companies to perform.
During the last tech bust, it was short lived because everyone bought houses instead. That option is no longer an option. In the bust prior to that, it was due to another one time huge local industry- aerospace- closing shop and thus taking away a lot of tech business.
So to say that tech is here to stay forever and ever is foolhardy. The world has changed rapidly, tech companies can be created on any continent, and be done at a fraction of the cost in areas like California. Tech is now so generic that it might as well be the vacuum cleaner industry.
October 28th, 2008 at 9:20 am
This is so funny, looks like Chuckie thinks that the money he hide behind the mattress and pass 1.03m HOUSES because they are 0.03m over his budget will be paying for this 1.2m LOT and then build him a mansion. Is Chuckie a donkey?
October 28th, 2008 at 9:25 am
54,
If you ignore all the spilling errs and glamorous mistakes, you probably would hear some of Chuckie’s talks are RE relatives.
October 28th, 2008 at 9:48 am
Admission to Ivies is an interesting subject. It has been my observation based on the people I know who went to Stanford that admission seems to be based on legacies, having a parent who is a professor there, having olympic athletic abilities or being in a minority group. The people who got in are indeed intelligent, but they needed more then intelligence and had one of the other qualities above. By the time all these kids are accommodated, there probably isn’t much space left. Going to Paly or Gunn wasn’t enough. I would be interested in others observations as this is purely anecdotal just from the sampling I have met.
October 28th, 2008 at 9:48 am
Rick,
At least you spelled your own name right. Oops, you forgot to capitalize!
October 28th, 2008 at 10:18 am
questions, my dear friend?
you attempt to mislead at every bend
you put your spin on every fact
if i ask you a question
i am likely smoking crack.
All shall forgive chuck’s typos
and the lack of eloquence in his prose
but he will not hesitate to attack
another’s posts – this is a fact.
October 28th, 2008 at 10:26 am
“Can you really expect your kids to gain admission to a top tier university if you yourself are unable to get into a top school district?”
Yes, especially if one’s parents are teachers. In my opinion, better be the top student of a lambda high-school than in the top 30% of Palo Alto. Success is relative. Of course, as pointed out above, if you’re the second top student in that school, you can probably forget it.
October 28th, 2008 at 10:36 am
OK I just have to pipe up here. All this discussion about school districts makes me laugh. My kids went to private schools, and I myself went to public AND private, how many of you did? Do you know what the key difference is between public and private schools? Private will develop your kids aptitudes way way beyond what any public school will do. Private schools spend countless hours DRILLING those SAT synonyms and antonyms into kids’ brains. If you are trying to get your kid into a top school, go PRIVATE. Do you actually think that Palo Alto PUBLIC schools are better than Bellarmine in San Jose to prepare for both getting in, and doing well, in university? Did anybody here go to private school? I went to what was once one of the top high schools in the state and a year later for personal reasons had to go to an expensive private prep school in SoCAL, and my SATs improved almost 250 pts!
October 28th, 2008 at 10:48 am
Can you really expect your kids to gain admission to a top tier university if you yourself are unable to get into a top school district?
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Chuckie is trying to prove that PA is the only “top school district” in bay area. I guess the whole RBA now shrinked to PA only.
October 28th, 2008 at 10:53 am
Real School District Area – the only place in the world that guarantees, with virtual certainty, that you will get into an ivy league community.
October 28th, 2008 at 10:56 am
>>Chuckie is trying to prove that PA is the only “top school district” in bay area.
Pralay,
Where did I say that?
October 28th, 2008 at 11:00 am
Chuckie,
I already quoted your comment where you said so.
October 28th, 2008 at 11:01 am
I went to public school in a okay school district out East, it didn’t cost a fortune to live there, anyone in the county could go the school if they were qualified, you couldn’t buy your way in, and I can safely than more than 40 kids in my class of 430 went to Harvard/Yale/Duke/Princeton/Dartmouth/MIT/etc.
There is more to the equation than what you’re all saying.
October 28th, 2008 at 11:03 am
hypocritical mis-statements he can dish
it’s funny cuz…he has the memory of a fish.
October 28th, 2008 at 11:07 am
Pralay,
Do you know the difference between “a top school district” vs. “the top school district”?
October 28th, 2008 at 11:10 am
arguing semantics
a monkey’s antics
just don’t try to pin him down
his bags are packed, he’ll just skip town
October 28th, 2008 at 11:13 am
Gosh, when it comes to Stanford I thought PA is THE top school district. Sunnyvale CUSD, Cupertino won’t cut it.
October 28th, 2008 at 11:14 am
or maybe appeal to your good taste
and request the convo turn back to real estate
October 28th, 2008 at 11:20 am
I’m sort of with Cardinal on this one. But I’ll take it a step further. There’s a lot of parents these days who base everything on school test scores and supposed school quality. This hardly has anything to do with how well YOUR child will do. Its up to the parent more than the school to ensure they get onto the right track. Even if they go to the best school in the area, I know PLENTY of kids I grew up with who had wealthy parents, sent their kids to the best private or public schools, bought expensive houses near these school districts, and wound up being miserable failures in life, like my Cousin whom did precisely this only to work as a photo “technician” at a local grocery store.
Parents need to stop being such panicky perfectionists and realize that they can’t shield their kids from the world. Better to let them experience what real life is like before they find it out when they leave the roost.
Just a little advice from someone with 150+ years in a family of teachers who have taught at schools of all sorts.
October 28th, 2008 at 11:32 am
Stepford – you make a good point in #69. One of my best friends from high school went to Stanford. He had to pick between that and Cal Poly. His SAT scores were extremely high, he was reasonably well-rounded, and probably one of only a few people selected from Michigan. My point being, you can be “different” by being from somewhere under-represented.
(Hey, bob, if you raise your kids in TN you might have a better chance of getting your kids in than ol’ Chuckie!)
WG (#73) – LOL. My folks moved to a good school district because there was no way they could afford private school for four kids. Much less pay for college. Luckily I got a full scholarship to the University of Michigan. It’s no Snodfart, but…
October 28th, 2008 at 11:43 am
Yes, my kids are doomed because I did not buy a house in Palo Alto. No way they’re going to a top-tier school, even though (shhhh!) they’re legacies. Ahahahahahahahah!!!!
Stepford‘s observations are spot-on. There is affirmative action given to legacies (probably stronger than any other group), athletes, other superstars who have distinguished themself as standouts (actors, say), minorities (but not Asians and Jews, sorry, you get fewer admits per capita than white gentiles), and children of professors.
San Matean, do you realize that the reason so many Palo Also kids got into “decent” colleges is because their parents bought there in the first place since they value education! This is not a function of where they went to school but what their parents values are. A majority FUHSD kids go to these same schools, but there are a percentage of them that don’t go to college at all or only do community college. What they don’t have are the numbers going to Stanford, compare 1-2 with a dozen. Unless your kids are top students, this makes little difference. There are very few spots for any kids with no pull in the ways I mentioned above.
WG, I would agree with you if I could find a private high school around here that I could stand. Bellarmine is out for 2 reasons, it’s a religious school which I won’t abide, and they only take boys. (It really ticks me off that the Jesuits won’t educate girls even though I won’t consider their schools anyway — I know they teach well.) Most private schools back east are secular, few here are. I am a graduate of one of them. The reason private does better is because the good ones have 17 kids in a class instead of 35. That’s really most of the magic.
When I arrived at my freshman year at my (shhh!) top-tier university, the public school kids all fell apart at midterms or when they turned in their first research paper. These were kids who had never gotten a C or D in their entire lives. They were crying.
I had straight As. I was ready. Yup, private school.
October 28th, 2008 at 11:45 am
nomadic, you are absolutely right. The more rural the area, the higher your chances of getting into a top school if your scores and teacher recommendations are strong. Stanford gets thousands of applicants from the Bay Area, Los Angeles, NY Metro, Boston Metro, etc etc etc. They’d pounce on a kid from a cattle ranch in Wyoming with 2300 SATs.
October 28th, 2008 at 11:48 am
nomadic, thats my point though. If people are going to pay 1.5 million MORE for a house just to live in a good school district, for gods sake go private! Private schools have luxuries that no public school has. They can dwell on testing for one thing. Before anybody says thats a terrible thing, what if one period in the school day your kid had a class called “test taking”. Would that be so bad? 20 years ago I took an SAT test as a public school student and I had NEVER SEEN an Antonym. Had to think initally what the word meant. There was a whole section on those in the SATs! Go to a private school they drill that stuff into the kids. Public schools don’t want to teach the test, ok. Is this worth 1.5 million dollars?
October 28th, 2008 at 11:51 am
madhaus, yeah I don’t know much about Bellarmine or Valley Christian which is the other one that seems to be high end. Just trying to make a point that people are paying one million more for a house to be in a school district which if you think about it is more than ANY private education would be for 2 kids. I know its not black and white like that, of course.
October 28th, 2008 at 11:57 am
Public schools don’t want to teach the test, ok. Is this worth 1.5 million dollars?
That’s not true! Public schools are teaching to the test. The STAR test, because that’s what they’re “graded” on. Private schools teach to the SAT because parent “grade” the school on how many kids go to top colleges. Both schools are doing what they are pressured to do.
Is it worth $1.5m MORE for a “good” school district? What two districts are you comparing here, Palo Alto with what? Cambrian? I wouldn’t buy in Cambrian (because of the schools), so I would say yes. Now, I didn’t buy in Palo Also, I bought in CUSD. I think the premium when I bought was probably 60%, and it probably still is 60% higher here. So what would PA sell for over Cambrian then, 150%? Right now it looks like 300%.
I have an even better idea. How about buying in a community I like with a good high school, and then sending my kids to an SAT coaching service? Those cost about a grand or so, right? Much cheaper than private school, even if I could find one I’d like. I’ve found K-8 schools similar to the one I went to (I’m thinking of one in Los Gatos in particular) but nothing at the high school level.
October 28th, 2008 at 12:00 pm
I would sooner keep my kids home playing video games than send them to Valley Christian. They are run by fundamentalist loons who teach creationism and anti-Catholicism in HISTORY class. The kids have to pray to the Christian flag every morning.
Kings Academy tells non-Christian parents they will actively prosletyze both them and their children if they attend.
I think Bellarmine, Mitty, etc are positively Kumbaya-Waldorf compared to Valley Christian and the like.
October 28th, 2008 at 12:04 pm
They removed the antonyms a long time ago. I took the post-1994 version of the SAT, the 1600 point version, there were no antonyms, it was decided that it was not an effective way of measuring whatever it is they measure. I opposed the 2005 changes to include a writing section on the SATs, the complaints about the need for writing were completely unnecessary. When I applied for colleges in 99/2000 there wasn’t one school that did not require the SAT II writing.
Do they really think having the SAT as it is now is better than old version SAT + SAT II writing?
As for drilling for the SATs, I don’t remember seeing any school do that, some students in my school went to Princeton Review or Kaplan for this. I remember I did drills using an old software program, I studied this stuff by myself.
As for admissions there are schools out there that bias against places with a lot of qualified applicants as they would prefer geographic diversity, and my school had a lot of good candidates, it was easier to get into Harvard if you hadn’t gone to my school but another nearby school for example, but that doesn’t mean you are as prepared for college work there.
October 28th, 2008 at 12:06 pm
Pralay once again fades out when any real discussion starts…
October 28th, 2008 at 12:10 pm
Guys,
If your kid has been reading since entering grade school, he/she should not need the SAT coaching. The vocabulary skills should’ve been built up by the time the kid is taking the SAT.
October 28th, 2008 at 12:10 pm
They are run by fundamentalist loons who teach creationism and anti-Catholicism in HISTORY class.
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Creationism in bay area! Gosh, that’s scary.
October 28th, 2008 at 12:11 pm
cardinal, I didn’t so much drill for the SAT as we talked about what we needed to know and were given things to drill on our own. So we were given the tools at school but it was up to us to use them. I don’t think public high schools even do that.
Motivated parents will encourage their kids to work on their own to be ready for the SATs. Kids whose parents don’t know about this won’t know what they ought to be doing and fall further behind. The more college-bound kids in your kid’s school, the more likely they are to have this importance reinforced all around. The fewer, the less likely. And that’s why the top colleges love taking kids from high schools that rarely produce anyone going on to a decent college — clearly that is a motivated and outstanding young person who got there despite little community support.
October 28th, 2008 at 12:13 pm
Regarding private schools, if you have 2 or more kids, it would be cheaper to just buy in RBA than to send them both to private school. You can choose to pay the mortgage or to pay the school. I’d rather pay the mortgage and let my kids be in a neighborhood school where they can connect with other kids in the community.
October 28th, 2008 at 12:14 pm
If your kid has been reading since entering grade school, he/she should not need the SAT coaching. The vocabulary skills should’ve been built up by the time the kid is taking the SAT.
This is clearly a comment from someone with young children. Chuckie is not going to handle the teen years well at all.
I’m not disparaging the importance of independent reading, but actually the best predictor of student success is parents consistently reading to their children. Age of beginning reading is less important as long as it isn’t significantly delayed. Some cities used to count the number of non-readers in third grade and use this to forecast the number of prison spaces needed.
October 28th, 2008 at 12:19 pm
And that’s why the top colleges love taking kids from high schools that rarely produce anyone going on to a decent college — clearly that is a motivated and outstanding young person who got there despite little community support.
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Except PA. PA always gets preferential treatment.
And that’s why PA residents don’t mind to when “Stanford students are invading Palo Alto”
October 28th, 2008 at 12:23 pm
RealEstater, thats ridiculous about reading, it really is. I think your kids are probably still pretty young. It is well known that California kids, even the ones from the top schools almost NEVER score perfect scores on reading comprehension portion of SAT vs the east coast kids do, routinely. There have been whole PBS specials analyzing this odd fact. Reading comprehension on the west coast has always lacked. Every kid can benefit from it- and I know from whence I speak, my family are relatives of some of the top academics at the Lawrence Berkeley labs. That is why we have lived here so long. I come from a family of perfect test score people, and yet, we lack in reading comprehension, like most (not all) West Coasters. Cardinal is right, it is common knowledge that East Coast schools outperform CA on standard tests, typically in the reading comprehension area.
October 28th, 2008 at 12:58 pm
WG – What was the conclusion on PBS as to why the East Coast has better reading comprehension? Is it a function of having so many second language learners in the West? Does that skew the results? – Did they say how children can develop better comprehension skills?
October 28th, 2008 at 12:58 pm
Do they still have the PSAT? That was how I prepared for the SAT.
WG – that is a very weird thing about comprehension. D’you suppose it’s all the kids outside in the sunshine instead of reading a book as it snows and the wind howls?
October 28th, 2008 at 1:07 pm
Here’s another thing for you parents: community college. If you think about it, most colleges basically re-teach what you learned in HS at an accelerated level for the first two years. Community colleges offer the same remedial classes for a small fraction of the cost and they often transfer into 4 year programs, minus 1.5-2 years.
That’s what me and my younger brother did. Worked out fine.
October 28th, 2008 at 1:08 pm
“Guys,
If your kid has been reading since entering grade school, he/she should not need the SAT coaching. The vocabulary skills should’ve been built up by the time the kid is taking the SAT.”
Wow. This statement is so preposterous I had to break my rhyming theme to respond.
Chuck, learning to read organically will not help your children score in the upper echelon in the reading comp portion of the SAT. These standardized tests artificially test people’s abilities to provide the answer the test is looking for. They are not tough; they simply require practice thinking in that manner. This is why parents incomes are so closely correlated to how well children perform on these tests. The parents understand its importance and they pay for the preparation seminars. To say that your children will be prepared because they are ‘exposed’ to Palo Alto greatness is absolutely hilarious.
It’s pretty clear that you’ve got no idea what to do to help your kids receive a high quality education. Psst: posting on burbed until the wee hours of the morning isn’t going to help. Maybe you should pick up a book, school yourself a little, and then try to pass on what you learn. See what happens.
I’m sure your poor kids are already well on the path community college, and I feel for them. They will grow up in a town of privilege and find themselves unable to understand that the lack of opportunities presented to them originates from an incompetent father. I hear that West Valley is quite highly rated. The best part is that they’ll be able to live at home while they attend.
October 28th, 2008 at 1:11 pm
WG,
I was talking about building up vocabularies for the SAT. I don’t expect my kids to score perfect. You don’t need anywhere near a perfect SAT to get into Stanford, although you might need it for Cal Tech.
October 28th, 2008 at 1:14 pm
anon,
Before I respond, please tell us if you went to one of the schools below:
Stanford, UC Berkeley, MIT, Cal Tech, Ivy League (Havard, Princeton, Yale etc.)?
You don’t need to say which one.
October 28th, 2008 at 1:20 pm
I don’t know anon (and the rest that disagree so heartily with RE’s reading assertion)… I think being a voracious reader helps kids score well. I never took any prep courses or had coaching, etc. I was always lucky to test really well. A somewhat useless skill in the real world but useful for getting into the college of choice.
(Oh, and I meant to put Cal Tech in my previous post but called it Cal Poly. OOPS! That would piss off certain folks…)
October 28th, 2008 at 1:22 pm
“If you think about it, most colleges basically re-teach what you learned in HS at an accelerated level for the first two years. ”
Bob, this is absolutely untrue unless you attend an outstanding high school and a shitty college.
Granted, one’s major has something to do with it, but take mathematics for example. The advanced high school students typically end complete their senior year having taken an introduction to calculus. Maybe they repeat calculus in their first semester to re-ground them, but from then on they hit the ground running.
Chuck Your answer is yes, but it makes no difference. Do you know what an ad hominem attack is?
October 28th, 2008 at 1:26 pm
Actually, they’re introducing a PPSAT I think. The College Board (the people who do the SAT’s) make so much money it’s insane.
October 28th, 2008 at 1:27 pm
Yeah, big diffo between CalTech and Cal Poly!
You cannot make your kid a voracious reader. That will come from within. What you can do as a parent is expose your child to excellent literature so they want to keep reading, and pick a school with other educated families so their friends are also more likely to enjoy reading.
By the time your kids are teenagers, you are no longer their boss. You get fired, and then you hope to be rehired as their consultant.
Chuckie, nobody here has to answer any question you ask us when you don’t answer it for yourself first. And given your demonstrably poor education, you can’t exactly pose as an expert on getting into a top school.
October 28th, 2008 at 1:28 pm
“I don’t know anon (and the rest that disagree so heartily with RE’s reading assertion)… I think being a voracious reader helps kids score well. ”
Absolutely. It helps. A strong vocabulary is always going to help reading comprehension. However, it is not the end all for doing well on a standardized test.
“I was always lucky to test really well. A somewhat useless skill in the real world but useful for getting into the college of choice.”
I agree. Not only is it a ‘somewhat’ useless skill in the real world, it is typically not acquired in one’s day to day experiences. This includes reading or becoming “well traveled” LOL.
I would submit to you that your ability to pick the ‘best’ answer on a standardized test (read: score well) stems from an ability to reason logically rather than the fact that one may be well read.
October 28th, 2008 at 1:29 pm
Chuck Your answer is yes, but it makes no difference. Do you know what an ad hominem attack is?
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Anon,
That’s just a question (with cavuto mark). Of course you can ask anything to Chuckie with cavuto mark too. My personal fav question with cavuto mark is the “mother” one in Jon Stewart’s video.
October 28th, 2008 at 1:29 pm
“By the time your kids are teenagers, you are no longer their boss. You get fired, and then you hope to be rehired as their consultant.”
Lol – ain’t that the truth!
“Chuckie, nobody here has to answer any question you ask us when you don’t answer it for yourself first. And given your demonstrably poor education, you can’t exactly pose as an expert on getting into a top school.”
Quoted for truth, enunciation added.
October 28th, 2008 at 1:32 pm
anon,
Bob is talking about the JC he went to.
October 28th, 2008 at 1:33 pm
“Anon,
That’s just a question (with cavuto mark). Of course you can ask anything to Chuckie with cavuto mark too. My personal fav question with cavuto mark is the “mother” one in Jon Stewart’s video.”
Pralay, its not quite a cavuto mark, its a rhetorical question. I have no doubt he doesn’t know what that means. As to whether he’s bothering to look it up – that’s anyone’s guess. As to whether he will comprehend the distinction once he finds the definition, that’s another unknown.
October 28th, 2008 at 1:34 pm
Yes, RE – go for the low hanging fruit!
Instead of picking on pralay and bob why don’t you go toe to toe with me?
October 28th, 2008 at 1:38 pm
Voracious reading is definitely important for building vocabulary, but for the SAT I think you still need to study vocabulary words.
I was looking at the Amazon Kindle and I thought it might be useful for kids/teenagers (though it would be expensive and I don’t know if you can buy kid/teen books yet) because you can click on a word and get the definition for it. I think this would be helpful to learn vocabulary while reading as I know my son won’t make the effort to go get the dictionary and look up a word while he’s reading.
October 28th, 2008 at 1:39 pm
>>You cannot make your kid a voracious reader. That will come from within.
That’s precisely why it’s important to put your kid in an overall environment that is conducive to learning. If you just throw them into a private school and force feed them, they may revolt when they get to be a teen-ager.
October 28th, 2008 at 1:39 pm
Pralay, its not quite a cavuto mark, its a rhetorical question.
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Anon,
That’s cavuto mark. You can make a rhetoric comment and then put a question mark. That becomes “just a question”.
For example:
Chuckie has demonstrably poor education?
Just a question.
October 28th, 2008 at 1:44 pm
>>Yes, RE – go for the low hanging fruit!
>>Instead of picking on pralay and bob why don’t you go toe to toe with me?
OK, I’ll give you that. You are a tick above Pralay and Bob, once you recover from your auto accident.
October 28th, 2008 at 1:46 pm
REAL ESTATER : LOGIC ::
A. ARM : economic stability
B. 101 : lightspeed
C. BA : RBA
D. Marx : venture capital
Seriously, though, to add my anecdote to the pot, I was accepted at Stanford despite my Utah public-school education, mostly because my parents took such an interest in my sibs’ and my education, beginning with reading to us when we were very little. I was effectively home-schooled until about the seventh grade. That is not to say, however, that drilling for the SAT won’t help one’s score—it is, after all, a highly specialized, unnatural test of one’s scholastic ability/potential. Actually, we did a fair amount of SAT prep in my honors English class, but I have no idea whether that is currently the norm.
October 28th, 2008 at 1:52 pm
“Cavuto” quotes of the day:
“Yes, RE – go for the low hanging fruit!”
“Instead of picking on pralay and bob why don’t you go toe to toe with me?”
October 28th, 2008 at 1:55 pm
Chuckie lecturing us on education is even funnier than Fristy lecturing us on the economy.
October 28th, 2008 at 1:59 pm
Wow, so far four regulars who went to top schools, and wouldn’t ya know it, Chuckie isn’t one of them.
October 28th, 2008 at 2:00 pm
Prof Bleen,
If a kid has been a “voracious reader” from early on, then any SAT coaching would be the icing on the cake. If one does not read, and expects the coaching to work some magic, I don’t believe it will happen. Even if a kid got a desired score through such artificial means, chances are the kid will not do well in college. Exams in college don’t merely ask you to repeat what was taught, but tests whether you’ve developed the thinking skills necessary to solve problems you may have never encountered before.
October 28th, 2008 at 2:01 pm
“OK, I’ll give you that. You are a tick above Pralay and Bob, once you recover from your auto accident.”
What car accident? No response to my substantive statements? Uh oh. Looks like I may revert to an oompa loompa soon.
“For example:
Chuckie has demonstrably poor education?
Just a question.”
Lol, see Pralay – this looks like a statement of fact to me…I guess I’m not clear on that a cavuto mark is…
October 28th, 2008 at 2:07 pm
“Wow, so far four regulars who went to top schools, and wouldn’t ya know it, Chuckie isn’t one of them.”
Who needs a good education when you have the infinite educational equity of the RBA behind you? Nobody. Intellectual superiority by association is the new doctrine. After all, Steve jobs himself donated computers to the schools. If that doesn’t mean they’re guaranteed acceptance to at least one ivy league school, I don’t know what does. Did you hear me?!?! I said the kids have access to computers. Com-pu-ters. Those are fer lernin’.
October 28th, 2008 at 2:08 pm
Lol, see Pralay – this looks like a statement of fact to me…I guess I’m not clear on that a cavuto mark is…
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Watch the video link given in #112. It’s hilarious.
October 28th, 2008 at 2:08 pm
OK,
Let’s see who passes the test:
1. Were you Valedictorian of your high school?
2. Did you attend a top tier school from the list below: Stanford, UC Berkeley, MIT, Cal Tech, Ivy League (Havard, Princeton, Yale, Dartmouth, Columbia, Penn, Brown)?
3. Were you an engineering major? (No liberal arts weaklings or “information sciences” type craps)
4. Do you have a Masters of Science degree or MBA?
To satisfy madhaus’ curiousity, the answer for me is YES to all of the above (Disclaimer: This is not boasting. Just responding to a RFI).
October 28th, 2008 at 2:12 pm
Say what you want Anon,
But I went for two years to community college, transferred to a 2 year program, and now do very well. Likewise, my brother is about to receive his Masters and already has a job secured. He too did precisely the same, graduated at the top of his class, and again- saved a LOT of money by not wasting it basically taking the same math and science classes they teach in community college. Then again, TN community colleges are highly rated, perhaps more so than CA schools, which might be the difference.
October 28th, 2008 at 2:12 pm
I thought RE at some point implied that he went to Stanford, maybe I misread something?
For the record I did not do my undergrad in:
Stanford, UC Berkeley, MIT, Cal Tech, Ivy League (Havard, Princeton, Yale etc.)
But where I went is highly respected in my field, so it certainly didn’t hurt for applying to gradschool.
October 28th, 2008 at 2:13 pm
To the low hanging fruit,
Why are you still talkinga bout the cavuto mark when everyone else is talking about education?
October 28th, 2008 at 2:15 pm
RE, Lets dispense with some of the bullshit shall we? Just because you graduate as another programmer/engineer monkey doesn’t mean that you’re automatically geared towards instant success. Not by a long shot. Secondly, going to an “Ivy league” school doesn’t mean jack either, particularly when the student who goes to such college will be paying off school loans for 10-15 years.
let me let you in a little secret: I went to art school and believe it or not make a 6 figure income. Now don’t let your head explode over that one since I assume it would seem impossible for you to believe.
October 28th, 2008 at 2:15 pm
Damn, I was right again about Bob.
October 28th, 2008 at 2:16 pm
Nice job, Prof Bleen on the Miller Analogy. I hear they’ve been dropped too, alas.
CHUCKIE : STANFORD ::
a) Bob Jones : Einstein
b) W : Oxbridge
c) Saracudah : Russia
d) bob : Paul Krugman
e) Cayenne : Hamilton
October 28th, 2008 at 2:19 pm
All of a suddent, majority of the “regulars” are quiet, just like what happened after madhaus forced the zip code revelation.
October 28th, 2008 at 2:23 pm
RE, neither Pralay nor bob is the “low hanging fruit.”
Do you really need to be spoon fed everything?
The low hanging fruit was posted in response to your attack on bob. It is a reference to your election to respond to bob’s comment rather than mine.
Just as you are a petty materialist, you view yourself as superior because of the name of the institution that issued your diploma. They are just words, and it is clear that the actual benefit of a good education (TEH LERNIN’) is lost on you.
October 28th, 2008 at 2:28 pm
>>Just as you are a petty materialist, you view yourself as superior because of the name of the institution that issued your diploma.
There you go again, Anon. Did you have trouble reading the disclaimer? I already anticipated this kind of stuff from you.
October 28th, 2008 at 2:30 pm
To whoever asked, I don’t remember what the overall point was in that PBS special about California schools. The culprit is usually identified as a few things, 1) less access to books- CA has fewer libraries than other states and less books in the home and unsurprisingly this seems to be related to WEATHER, and 2) some public school laws from the 60s that were intended to encourage diversity ended up bringing the english speaking kids down a notch to compensate for the foreign speakers. I think those laws are all gone now but not sure.
Here is a related article- this actual article seems to be trying to dispel the urban myth about CA reading comprehension (that it was somehow related to a RECENT law, it is not) but this article has some pretty good statistics in it. You can also google CA word poverty etc. to read up on the issue.
http://www.rethinkingschools.org/archive/16_04/Urb164.shtml
One law CA used to have in the 80s, for example was if you lived in Redwood City and had a school of 80 kids with 3 teachers. out of those 80, 15 were native spanish speakers. The CA law mandated that one homeroom spoke SPANISH as its native language and due to the number of kids, 5 english speaking kids would draw the short straw and get put in the Spanish class. You can imagine the outcry about this. Can’t for the life of me imagine how something like this could pass and be tolerated but it was.
October 28th, 2008 at 2:33 pm
I can just picture this: Bob at a cocktail party when the subject of education came up:
“I went to a JC in Tennessee. It’s a really good school. Nashville, you know. Didn’t choose Stanford due to the high cost. Folks back home tells me Stanford doesn’t equate to success in life anyways. What’s your phone numer? Wait…where you going?”
October 28th, 2008 at 2:37 pm
Obviously. Just as the cavuto mark removes the biting effect of a outrageous and accusatory statement, your disclaimer means that your views are actually the complete opposite of what your writing indicates.
Do you think that my statement was made only from post 138? You have been going on and on all day about how important it is to have an ivy league education.
There are extraordinary people who attended ‘lesser’ institutions, and there are mediocre people that come from ‘high end’ ones. Success is up to the individual and it is no where near as simple as you make it out to be.
October 28th, 2008 at 2:41 pm
““I went to a JC in Tennessee. It’s a really good school. Nashville, you know. Didn’t choose Stanford due to the high cost. Folks back home tells me Stanford doesn’t equate to success in life anyways. What’s your phone numer? Wait…where you going?””
If a woman gives you the cold shoulder because of the name on your diploma, you don’t want her anyway.
I can think of no surer way to attract a gold digger. Maybe if you broadcast your bank account balances, ostentatiously tout the German engineered car you drive, slip in the size and location of your home…
October 28th, 2008 at 2:44 pm
Thanks, madhaus! That’s too bad about the analogies. I took the general GRE in 2001 and I’m fairly sure there were some there (this was when the computer-based exam was brand new).
Re #129: RE, what kind of test is that? A test of West Coast techie snob appeal? Are you that averse to any kind of knowledge or culture that doesn’t directly contribute to your money-making potential?
Do you have a Masters of Science degree or MBA?
I’ll see your MS and raise you a Ph.D. in molecular biology, and if your posts to Burbed are any indication of your mathematical ability, my math major at Oberlin is worth five of your engineering majors. (Yes—I declined Stanford to go to that hippie Midwest school.) And an MBA is so far below any other master’s degree in terms of academic rigor that they shouldn’t even be on the same page. An MBA is nothing more than a transaction in which the student’s soul is exchanged for an extra $30 K in salary.
October 28th, 2008 at 2:46 pm
One more post for my entertainment:
I’m doing this from memory – as usual buuuuuuuuuuuut:
“Maybe if you broadcast your bank account balances(10 bank accounts means that 9 are likely at or near their limit – taken from the conversation regarding the FDIC increasing the insurance limit to $250k), ostentatiously tout the German engineered car you drive(porsche….Boxter? Lol), slip in the size and location of your home…(RBA and “modest” – see I’m not all bad!)”
Now I see why you’re here.
October 28th, 2008 at 2:49 pm
CHUCKIE : TOP-TIER ::
a) Nobel : WWF
b) The O.C. : Pulitzer
c) Fields Award : long division
d) San Francisco : Davenport
e) Ivy League : Cornell
October 28th, 2008 at 2:54 pm
#129 – Yeepee a pissing contest! It was high time, the Porsche, Trophy Wife and Sub-Zero fridge were so old, they were starting to get cold (admittedly more a problem with the wife than with the fridge).
So – my answers are yes, yes at an abroad equivalent (does supervising more than one MIT graduate grant bonus points?), yes and yes.
Since I’m at it – in my opinion it’s better to be the top 1st at a remote, private high-school than in the top 20 at a famous school. Why? You don’t get as much of an “elite” mentality. Just a question of values.
As for bob’s “Secondly, going to an “Ivy league” school doesn’t mean jack either” – even when it’s not about real estate, the twit still manages to make a fool of himself. Congrats on your six figures bob, but didn’t you attend art school because you liked art and wanted to shine as an artist? Or did you attend it because you wanted to make lots of money and yet didn’t qualify for science/engineering school? Thought so.
October 28th, 2008 at 2:56 pm
madhaus,
Yup, count Cornell in the Ivy’s.
Oddly enough, you started this conversation, now you have no response regarding the test?
October 28th, 2008 at 2:56 pm
I’m still amused that Chuckie’s all swagger and brass over his claimed (but not proven) top-tier degree, yet he can’t even name the Ivies correctly. Either he didn’t attend them, or he’s so immune to learning he didn’t notice he left one out. Probably both.
Bleen, excellent call on the MBA – that degree does not belong on a list of accomplishments. Fergawdsakes, George W Bush has an MBA, and everyone knows he got into both Yale undergrad and Harvard B school because of his family connections. Classmates described him as incurious, uninterested in learning and class discussion, and a vicious taunter.
Hey wait a minute…
October 28th, 2008 at 2:56 pm
Jesus, now I know you guys are all rich, your company must be sad that it pays your salary to post 10 times per hour on burbed.
October 28th, 2008 at 2:57 pm
madhaus,
I would sooner keep my kids home playing video games than send them to Valley Christian. They are run by fundamentalist loons who teach creationism and anti-Catholicism in HISTORY class. The kids have to pray to the Christian flag every morning.
Kings Academy tells non-Christian parents they will actively prosletyze both them and their children if they attend.
I think Bellarmine, Mitty, etc are positively Kumbaya-Waldorf compared to Valley Christian and the like.
really? All I know about Valley Christian is that it is a sports school on the hill up there. I didn’t know it was hyper fundamentalist or anything, and rather surprised actually. One of my bosses who lived in Los Gatos sent his kids there, for sports. They have some former pro athletes as coaches.
October 28th, 2008 at 3:04 pm
This is why I said DreamT is a class act sometimes. He’s not going to evade some question or give some pathetic excuse. This is a test of confidence more than anything else. It’s not important whether the answer is YES or NO, but whether you show any hesitation to come forward. Prof Bleen is also a winner of course…
October 28th, 2008 at 3:09 pm
When did Chuckie ever say DreamT was a class act? I don’t think that’s happened with anyone here (praise by the Chuckster) except for WG being bullish on property values.
But feel free to demonstrate otherwise.
October 28th, 2008 at 3:10 pm
1. Were you Valedictorian of your high school?
2. Did you attend a top tier school from the list below: Stanford, UC Berkeley, MIT, Cal Tech, Ivy League (Havard, Princeton, Yale, Dartmouth, Columbia, Penn, Brown)?
3. Were you an engineering major? (No liberal arts weaklings or “information sciences” type craps)
4. Do you have a Masters of Science degree or MBA?
1. No, not by a long shot, the school didn’t rank and there was no Valedictorian, but if there was I wouldn’t be it.
2. I’ve been in UC Berkeley, MIT, Harvard, and uhm, what the hell happened to Cornell?
3. Computer Science, so no it as is not “real engineering”
4. MS, from some place near here.
October 28th, 2008 at 3:24 pm
WG, this should demonstrate the problem with VCS. Here’s a description of VCS high school biology class:
and here’s the same class from Bellarmine.
Anyone notice what very important biology concept was missing from VCS’ class?
PS – why is everyone answering Chuckie’s silly quiz? Does anyone think because I answer “no” to #1 (because I went to a prep school where over a third of us went to Ivies) that this somehow makes him better educated than me? Fristy may be wrong on a lot of things, but he’s right that there are people who go to Ivies and don’t learn squat.
October 28th, 2008 at 3:30 pm
madhaus,
LOL. I didn’t expect your response to be on par with Bob’s.
October 28th, 2008 at 3:31 pm
Either he didn’t attend them, or he’s so immune to learning he didn’t notice he left one out. Probably both.
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Madhaus,
You are damn right. Chuckie did not even know that some of the colleges have foreigners undergrads. I think the only college he attended Alpha College Of Real Estate.
October 28th, 2008 at 3:38 pm
“why is everyone answering Chuckie’s silly quiz”
Because it’s a silly quiz. RealEstater must be getting his inspiration from Livejournal or Facebook, where he must spend his days filling out silly quizzes.
October 28th, 2008 at 3:38 pm
hmm. I see your point Madhaus. Bellarmine has evolution, and VC has origins of life which sounds a little “suspect” to say the least. My kids went to Catholic school and from what I recall, the State of CA requires evolution to be taught in every accredited institution. The teachers in Catholic school sort of hold their noses and gloss over the evolution part so you have to back up that part of the class with your kids at home, and this is 10th grade anyway so they are already fairly opinionated by that time. But this evolution issue is a problem for any religious school- fortunately in CA we have PBS and some other great TV that teaches evolution in a more interesting and up to date format than most schools ever could, so it was never an issue for us. We just happened to have traveled to Kenya when my kids were 11 and 13 (right before teenage when they don’t want to go on vacation with their parents) and saw Lucy and Ulduvai Gorge right up front so I always wondered how my kids managed to deal with creationism when it came up in school. But since I foster the same inconsistencies myself, going to church about once every 2 years, I figured I’d expose my kids to the same dichotomy! LOL.
Seriously I wonder how successful VC is teaching creationism in Silicon Valley. I KNOW many parents send their kids there for SPORTS, not God.
October 28th, 2008 at 3:40 pm
Because it’s a silly quiz. RealEstater must be getting his inspiration from Livejournal or Facebook, where he must spend his days filling out silly quizzes.
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Spending his days filling out silly quizzes so that he can work till 2AM for his multi-********** mega-project.
October 28th, 2008 at 3:47 pm
“madhaus,
LOL. I didn’t expect your response to be on par with Bob’s.”
Slow your roll, my droll troll.
This conversation is no fun
Is it possible I’m the only one
who thinks it obvoius chuck’s out gunned?
October 28th, 2008 at 3:49 pm
WG, this should demonstrate the problem with VCS. Here’s a description of VCS high school biology class:
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Wow, the CVS brochedure starts with following:
I wonder what “laws and principles” they are implying.
October 28th, 2008 at 3:50 pm
WG, a co-worker of mine sent his kid to Christian school, this was a guy who had trained to be a doctor but had to leave his country due to political instability. Ended up in the tech field.
He was horrified to find that his daughter had thoroughly drank the kool-aid on creationsism. He sent his kid to this school because he didn’t like the public schools, and that’s what he got. He kept saying to me over and over, “I trained to be a DOCTOR, I can’t have my kid saying this, what am I going to do! She won’t listen! She thinks evolution is a tool of Satan! I thought this was a good school!” He was practically tearing up over this.
Catholic schools are not accredited by the State of California but by accreditation boards, there is probably one for Catholic schools. They do not have to teach evolution but until the current pope took over, there wasn’t any pushback on evolution from Catholic leadership anyway. However, most stronger private high schools ensure they meet the requirements of the UCs so their students can qualify.
How successful is VCS teaching creationism? I’d say if the kids aren’t getting other information at home, they might be doing okay at it. How many kids are going to ask for supplemental info on science class, maybe one in twenty? Remember, kids of actual scientists won’t go there once their parents find out what they’re teaching. Not sure about engineers, more of them are religious than scientists, and even “religious” doesn’t cover rejecting evolution. There are plenty of religious people who have no problem with it.
Bear in mind that origins of life and evolution are two different topics. Evolution covers how life changes once it’s present.
October 28th, 2008 at 3:51 pm
with my ‘obvoius’ incapacity
my writing is an exercise in futility
as i just destroyed my credibility
October 28th, 2008 at 3:54 pm
Pralay, Alpha College of Real Estate? Really? That sounds right up Chuckie’s alley! Because if it’s Alpha that means he’s on top, right? You know, Alpha male, Alpha dog, Alpha Beta.
October 28th, 2008 at 3:55 pm
By the way, did you guys see this?
http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,24345772-5016574,00.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/religion/2910447/Charles-Darwin-to-receive-apology-from-the-Church-of-England-for-rejecting-evolution.html
October 28th, 2008 at 3:56 pm
Wow, the CVS brochedure starts with following:
God’s creative acts provide the foundation for scientific discovery. Students explore the wonder of the laws and principles that govern the universe while developing marketplace skills.
I wonder what “laws and principles” they are implying.
OMG, Pralay, you’ve found the proof that they’re teaching capitalism in science class.
October 28th, 2008 at 3:56 pm
Seriously I wonder how successful VC is teaching creationism in Silicon Valley.
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WG,
They don’t need to teach creationism successfully. They just need to insert doubts about evolution in students’ minds. That’s all they need.
October 28th, 2008 at 4:00 pm
anon, between that story and the Dominionist-funded schism over ordaining gay ministers, I don’t think the old C of E is going to hold on much longer.
Now how long did it take the Catholic Church to apologist to Galileo? Let’s see, 1992 minus 1633 is…
October 28th, 2008 at 4:02 pm
Alpha College of Real Estate! Food for thought.
October 28th, 2008 at 4:08 pm
They do not have to teach evolution but until the current pope took over, there wasn’t any pushback on evolution from Catholic leadership anyway.
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And don’t forget about George Coyne.
October 28th, 2008 at 4:09 pm
Well, I was just thinking about my kids, and my own personal experience from high school when I was a kid. I had a public school teacher in CA schools when I was a kid who was obviously a religious nut who hated having to teach evolution but did. He would say things in class like “well I have to tell you that life started as a sort of mistake, yes thats right all of this a mistake.. believe what you want”, etc. This was the time of the Briggs initiative in CA schools – a really funny time. I remember I had formed my own opinions long before this guy was my science teacher and I thought he was a bit of a clown. My kids seem to have picked up the same attitude problem towards religion (in general) even though they went to catholic schools so it probably has to do with how much religious doctrine is accepted in the home and in my home, not much! Although we do go to church once every 2 years. So you definitely can send your kids to parochial school and not have them come out like zealots, but best be wary I suppose. With all this in mind I would actually be in favor of shutting down all parochial schools if we ever wind up with lots of muslim private schools which is what they have in Europe now. Those are causing a lot of problems and if all private schools have to go to keep those out, so be it.
October 28th, 2008 at 4:11 pm
Bear in mind that origins of life and evolution are two different topics. Evolution covers how life changes once it’s present.
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And this is where ID theory comes to picture. That’s why I was horrified with the wording in VCS science class description (ref post #161).
October 28th, 2008 at 4:14 pm
Is it due to Darwinism that Pralay is priced out of the RBA, and madhaus failed to gain admission to a top tier school?
October 28th, 2008 at 4:19 pm
and on that note, clearly God has chosen RealEstater as one of the chosen ones, soon we will bear witness to RealEstater parting the traffic jam at 101/University by the Ikea parking lot shouting “Let my people go”- ushering in hundreds of Palo Alto SUVs as they go barreling down 101 at 75mph on their way to Google.
October 28th, 2008 at 4:21 pm
Is it due to Darwinism that Pralay is priced out of the RBA, and madhaus failed to gain admission to a top tier school?
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Wow! Chuckie’s knowledge of Darwinism is definitely no better than creationists who never read Darwin’s theory for once. Darwinism is about inter-species competition.
So, should we assume that Chuckie is not homo sapiens?
October 28th, 2008 at 4:24 pm
Pralay, I said until the current Pope took over. Coyne was pushout out by Benedict. You know, the current one, the one who used to head up the successor of the Inquisition.
WG, your last post left me very uneasy. You are basically saying you would take away rights if you don’t like the result. I realize you are alluding to a specific example which has led to problems, but I think you’d best explain yourself a lot more clearly because the way you’ve left it you’re opening yourself up to some very justified charges of religious bigotry. In particular, I’d like to know how a pluralistic society should handle private religious schools, when the ones we already have are causing problems by producing ignorant citizens. The problem is not Muslims at all, but fundamentalists of any religion.
October 28th, 2008 at 4:28 pm
Wow! Chuckie’s knowledge of Darwinism is definitely no better than creationists who never read Darwin’s theory for once. Darwinism is about inter-species competition.
So, should we assume that Chuckie is not homo sapiens?
Chuckie is homo fatua. Or maybe a cross between that and homo avarus. Or could be flat-out homo palinus, because he can see Stanford from his house, he thinks he’s smarter than you are.
October 28th, 2008 at 4:34 pm
and on that note, clearly God has chosen RealEstater as one of the chosen ones, soon we will bear witness to RealEstater parting the traffic jam at 101/University by the Ikea parking lot shouting “Let my people go”- ushering in hundreds of Palo Alto SUVs as they go barreling down 101 at 75mph on their way to Google.
This is a banner day. WG, who has always stayed above the shoving matches, has finally had enough of Chuckie’s fatuous preening.
October 28th, 2008 at 4:35 pm
Unable to pass the tests, madhaus resorts to personal attacks, again.
October 28th, 2008 at 4:36 pm
Actually Homo Porscheus Sub-zero-refrigeratus Multi-mega-projectus would be proper.
October 28th, 2008 at 4:52 pm
homo levidensis
Also alpha is used in computer graphics in the term alpha channel, which describes transparency.
But getting back to interspecies competition, here’s one that could apply.
October 28th, 2008 at 4:55 pm
Chuckie : Stanford ::
a) Putin : parking space
b) Drudge : journalism
c) Intelligent Design : intelligence
d) McCain : integrity
e) Fox News : Fair and Balanced
October 28th, 2008 at 4:59 pm
“This is a banner day. WG, who has always stayed above the shoving matches, has finally had enough of Chuckie’s fatuous preening.”
Indeed it is. Cheers, WG.
October 28th, 2008 at 5:04 pm
WG,
I am very hesitant to remove anyone’s rights because some people disagree with it, mostly as it sets a bad standard. Certainly such issues can go to the state supreme court that may decide it is unconstitutional to say give a certain religious group some rights, but not another. This is obviously trumped by the Constitutional amendments, which only need a simple majority in this state. It is theoretically possible to amend the constitution to say, non US citizens (a much disliked minority in this state) cannot drive legally in the state of California. Regardless of the personal politics of judges they cannot throw this out as unconstitutional since it is part of the constitution. Only the federal government can say that is unconstitutional (I don’t know if it would be). If a simple majority deems it they could then deny rights to anybody.
I prefer to just live and let live, the right may have started all this by polarizing the electorate and deciding to remove people’s rights by popular vote, but I don’t want to stoop down to that level, I find it morally wrong.
October 28th, 2008 at 5:05 pm
I prefer homo nonsequitus.
October 28th, 2008 at 6:17 pm
I’m not in favor of a Muslim subculture emerging here, thats my personal preference after fearing for my life not once but TWICE in Europe lately. I was there when that riot broke out about the Jylands-Postem insulting muslim cartoon, anybody remember that? Turns out my former company has an EU office close to the incident. It was one of the most ridiculous “international incidents” I have ever witnessed in my life. 100 people were killed over this, and the society of Dutch Imam’s (or whatever they are) demanded to meet with the Danish PRIME MINISTER to discuss these stupid offensive cartoons. Meanwhile that same month 7 separate incidents of Gay violence occurred on the part of Muslim districts advocating violence about openly gay people. I’ll pass on this culture, seriously. Their churches or whatever they are are obviously teaching hate. if somebody wants to come to the US or EU and thinks that any cartoon, I mean ANY cartoon is worth killing somebody over they should be disallowed into any western country.
October 28th, 2008 at 6:35 pm
I’m sorry, WG, you are saying that when discussion turns to rioting, beliefs should be outlawed. Should the right to life movement be banned because crazies on their side shot doctors? What about the homegrown American anti-government militias that produced Tim McVeigh, I think he managed to take out more than 200 people.
Blaming all the riots on one “Muslim subculture” when there are so many forms of it is meaningless, and outlawing it will create even worse problems. Weren’t some of the riots over the headscarf ban? Was banning them really the best way to handle it or did it throw gasoline on a smoldering fire?
Were you out of the country when Congress decided it had to return to session to pass a law about a terminally dying woman (Terry Schiavo)? Believe me, the US is not immune from religious crazies either. The problem the US has is one of our political parties panders for their votes. It’s similar to Israel where the ultra-Orthodox parties are always part of any coalition despite having few seats in Knesset; except here we have our coalitions formed before the election.
That said, anyone roiling up people to kill other people ought to be locked up for fomenting a riot or as a danger to the public welfare. I just can’t go along with talk of banning an entire religion or culture.
October 28th, 2008 at 7:25 pm
Will you guys take your discussion elsewhere? This has nothing to do with real estate.
October 28th, 2008 at 10:21 pm
WG – In Europe, many “religions” are classified as sects and are often banned, primarily because it is considered that they prey on people’s finances, advocate refusing medical assistance, organize genocide, etc.. Yet Islam is not only accepted, it is officially recognized by governments who have open line of communication with the more progressive leaders…
whereas a European would generally be shocked to stumble upon a Scientology temple right on Mountain View’s Castro St. or SF’s Market St.
In any case, your post shows a shocking lack of knowledge about Muslim cultures, but most of all the conclusions you draw on all Muslims from extreme incidents are as close to a troll as I’ve seen you post. There are lots of dubious elements in the Coran and in many Muslim countries’ traditions. Yet there are plenty of dubious elements in the Bible as well – especially in the old testament – and equally offensive stances in today’s Catholic church. Most of all, subscribing to a religion does not mean completely adhering to its philosophy and opinions – I asked this from a Catholic priest a few months ago who confirmed this to me.
October 28th, 2008 at 10:54 pm
Raising Evangelical Youth to be Promiscuous?
(cavuto mark!)
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/11/03/081103fa_fact_talbot
October 28th, 2008 at 11:33 pm
that was a great article, nomadic, thanks.
October 29th, 2008 at 12:04 am
“Will you guys take your discussion elsewhere? This has nothing to do with real estate.”
Dear RE,
You are an idiot.
Please take your BS elsewhere. There is no audience here.
Sincerely,
anon.
October 29th, 2008 at 12:47 am
WG,
Who is this Pat Robertson who thinks that not supporting Iraq war is “treason”? Or this Falwell?
I know you would tell me that supporting a war is different from rioting for a cartoon. I don’t see that way. Different economic and social conditions become different kind of vehicles for SAME OR SIMILAR religious zealots. Zealots are no different. Implant Fat Pat Robertson in different country, he would do very same thing what some muslim mullahs are doing – advocating “kill this guy, kill that guy…..be a suicide bomber in the name of Jesus”. Same way, implant one of those mullahs in America – he would be happy to become celebrity and popular with 700 club broadcasting, money and perks. He won’t bothered instigate riots.
October 29th, 2008 at 12:57 am
Will you guys take your discussion elsewhere? This has nothing to do with real estate.
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Isn’t that cute! When Chuckie cannot take it anymore after posting Nazi mis-interpretation of Darwinism or social-Darwinism(comment #173), he wants to go back to “real estate” – the comfort zone for a Alpha College of Real Estate graduate.
October 29th, 2008 at 12:59 am
Yes, but he has an MBA in Alpha Real Estate.
October 29th, 2008 at 5:52 am
Just to set the record straight, I do not have an MBA. The inclusion of MBA in the test was to enable a wider audience to participate and pass the test. Unfornately, madhaus and the low hanging fruit are beyond help.
October 29th, 2008 at 8:49 am
awww, my self-esteem is crushed. I could only answer yes to half of RE’s questions… even though I went to the #6 ranked engineering school (above most Ivies). Gosh, what if my identity is revealed and I’m ostracized from “proper” society (like those “proper families” RE alludes to in PA)?
October 29th, 2008 at 8:55 am
DreamT… I wouldn’t be talking since unless you have something to announce, you’re still out of work. Not sure what you mean by “twit” either.
Let me fill you in.I started out as an electrical engineer major and switched to art because it is my life’s passion. I still work in the field but have changed my career several times to accommodate changing economic preferences. The salary is merely coincidental and was never my primary objective.In fact, I spent several years nearly broke.
My point being made is that I feel way too many parents push their kids to be lawyers, Doctors, engineers, and Business execs because they feel that unless lil’ Jr. gets said degree,goes to the best schools, and etc etc,then they’ll be failures, and that’s a really sad thing that I see all the time and a bad message for kids.
My parents supported what I chose. I paid for my college mowing lawns, fixing equipment, and working at odd jobs. I busted my ass to get that degree, and have busted my ass to get to where I am.
So if you want to run your mouth some more, you go right ahead sweetheart, but I worked hard for where I got, and thank the lord every single day that I have a job and believe me- after having my arms up to their elbows in grease traps at nasty restaurants, a greasy face and bloody hands from fixing a rusted tractor,or having to get up at 3AM to go to some random job for years, I am very, very thankful for where I am right now. But I can’t say I see the same thing in this area. I see a lot of spoiled, self-entitled lazy people who “think” they deserve everything. Many who had everything paid for them. Many who don’t know what its like to be absolutely dirt-poor. Perhaps that explains to you why I save every damned penny I get, because I know that good fortune can disappear just as soon as it appears. Perhaps your perspective is different than mine. But I’m not going to guess as you’ve so clearly done with me. Perhaps now you understand me better now.
Perhaps I’m not the one making a fool out of myself. Now go get a job before you can’t if the economy tanks even more.
October 29th, 2008 at 9:01 am
Does anyone know which college chuckie graduated from and what degree he has? I have the impression that this guy come from 3rd rate university. His attitude seems very much like a hillbilly who got lucky and now all he talks is about his wealth, same like an American trash feels proud only because he is American.
October 29th, 2008 at 9:11 am
rick,
Are you up for taking the test?
October 29th, 2008 at 9:16 am
rick,
what difference does it make? it’s not like the keyboard has a lie detector test and it’s guaranteed the truth. and his posts are what does or doesn’t give his opinions merit.
FWIW, I think he alluded to a Stanford education but I don’t remember for sure. If he did attend, it doesn’t appear he got his full money’s worth.
October 29th, 2008 at 9:28 am
Here, try this, RE.
October 29th, 2008 at 9:47 am
bob – Nice background, to your honor, but what you don’t realize is that you now have an “elite mentality”. You seem to think this is an appanage of the rich, yet your comment about Ivy League school attendance not meaning jack is so over the top, it reveals that you feel superior by having had to struggle through your young years. Well your background doesn’t make you generally superior any more than it makes you generally inferior. Lose the attitude, and I’ll stop calling you twit!
Having a job or not is not a sanction of one’s level of thinking, especially during a short hiatus. Do you understand that?
As for the job search, while I’m about to secure survival salary for a few months with opportunity for future earnings, I have not found the permanent, stable position I am after. But not only this is irrelevant to this discussion, it is also none of your business.
October 29th, 2008 at 10:01 am
nomadic says,
>>what difference does it make? it’s not like the keyboard has a lie detector test and it’s guaranteed the truth.
Although that is true, I have not seen evidence of people here making up stuff, so I’d give people the benefit of doubt.
Having said that, you’re right. As I already alluded to earlier, the answer does not matter. What is more telling is how people reacted to the questionnaire.
October 29th, 2008 at 11:36 am
I have not seen evidence of people here making up stuff,
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How about Chuckster’s multi-timezone, multi-country, multi-million-dollar mega project?
Just a question (with cavuto mark).
October 29th, 2008 at 12:07 pm
Pralay,
>>How about Chuckster’s multi-timezone, multi-country, multi-million-dollar mega project?
Would I be up at 5AM this morning (see time stamp of #196) and up til 2AM the other day for no reason? (without cavuto mark)
October 29th, 2008 at 12:20 pm
Would I be up at 5AM this morning (see time stamp of #196) and up til 2AM the other day for no reason? (without cavuto mark)
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That definitely doesn’t sound like a daily schedule for a “management class” guy. That’s more of “worker bee” in night-shift.
October 29th, 2008 at 12:43 pm
>>That’s more of “worker bee” in night-shift.
Night shift? As I look outside, it looks like day time to me. Is it the coffee or is it you?
October 29th, 2008 at 12:53 pm
If 2AM looks like daylight, I don’t think that’s coffee. I think it involves different kind of substance.
October 29th, 2008 at 12:57 pm
What the?!
It really is like arguing with the guy from memento. He has context for anything and can’t learn anything new.
All he knows is: buy property good.
October 29th, 2008 at 12:58 pm
above should be : no context for anything…
October 29th, 2008 at 1:09 pm
Anon,
The funny thing is Chuckie is still insisting that he is a “management class” guy who manages multi-timezone, multi-country mega-project, while all he is doing in posting comments in burbed.
Chuckie must be that rare breed of “management class” guy who needs to stay awake 2AM EVERYDAY. Most likely he is the only guy in whole Silicon Valley.
October 29th, 2008 at 1:54 pm
Here’s the real memento guy speaking:
>>October 29th, 2008 at 12:53 pm
>>If 2AM looks like daylight, I don’t think that’s coffee.
October 29th, 2008 at 1:58 pm
Didn’t Chuckie say in post #206: “up til 2AM the other day for no reason“.
I bet that was a night-shift for “worker bee”.
October 29th, 2008 at 2:16 pm
Pralay,
Looks like you’re unable to follow a basic conversation.
Here’s what I posted at 12:43PM:
>>As I look outside, it looks like day time to me.
Here’s your response at 12:53PM:
>>If 2AM looks like daylight, I don’t think that’s coffee.
All I can say is,
memento! memento!
October 29th, 2008 at 2:27 pm
Did you notice that I mentioned “2AM” specifically in my comment, in reference to your post #206?
Secondly, “conversation”? LOL. Is it a chatroom?
In any case, “management class” guy staying up till 2AM everyday for mega-project does not sound very convincing. It got to be made-up.
October 29th, 2008 at 2:52 pm
>>Did you notice that I mentioned “2AM” specifically in my comment, in reference to your post #206?
Why were you even talking about 2AM? The whole point of that post was to show you I am working during the day time. If I’m a “night-shift” person would I be here now?
October 29th, 2008 at 3:04 pm
Wow! What part is overtime, Chuckie? Day-shift or night-shift?
October 29th, 2008 at 3:11 pm
Pralay,
The “overtime” concept does not apply to exempt employees.
Since I’ve been very honest with you. Would you explain why you are up surfing at 2AM?
October 29th, 2008 at 3:18 pm
Since I’ve been very honest with you.
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Should we start calling you Chuckie The Honest?
You remind me the famous quotation:
“If you have to keep mentioning and reminding people how honest you are, you are not”.
- Rousseau
October 29th, 2008 at 3:23 pm
Chuckie,
Considering the fact that you are working days and nights for your multi-**** mega-project like a “worker bee”, overtime is long overdue.
BTW, how many nights did you see me posting messages at 2AM? Even if I did a few nights, that’s probably due to the fact I went to bed late. I would not manufacture “multi-*** mega-project” like you.
October 29th, 2008 at 3:34 pm
BTW, did anybody read British comics Beau Peep? There is a character called Honest Abdul.
October 29th, 2008 at 3:44 pm
Gosh, Chuckie is unqualified to grade my test. My answers to #2-4 were all “yes”, but he marked them “no” when I said #1 was “no.” Even though I had already mentioned that I graduated from a top-tier university, ranked higher than Chuckie’s, too. Heck, I’ve even done admissions work for mine, that’s why I know Chuckie’s kids don’t have much hope of getting in to Stanford even with a legacy admit. Also legacies are only to the school you graduated from, there is no reciprocal arrangement.
Comment #220 suggests:
October 29th, 2008 at 3:46 pm
“Why were you even talking about 2AM? The whole point of that post was to show you I am working during the day time. If I’m a “night-shift” person would I be here now?”
Wow. Classic Chuck. LOL
Looks like he’s a round-the-clock-shift kind of guy.
October 29th, 2008 at 3:49 pm
I : V ::
a) pen : N
b) corn : L
c) column : B.A.
d) dart : mouth
e) prince : ton
October 30th, 2008 at 1:03 am
Looks like he’s a round-the-clock-shift kind of guy.
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LOL! Chuckie The Round-The-Clock-Management-Class-Guy.
October 30th, 2008 at 1:05 am
He’s always there if you need help.
October 30th, 2008 at 1:56 am
That’s true. He’ll so befuddle you that your old problem will seem trivial.
October 30th, 2008 at 2:11 am
Ain’t that the truth.
October 30th, 2008 at 2:12 am
At least its nice to be able to say: “Man. This guy’s got bigger problems than I do.”
October 30th, 2008 at 8:20 am
You guys stayed up til 2AM just to talk about me?
October 30th, 2008 at 8:34 am
doncha’ feel special?
October 30th, 2008 at 8:49 am
Talk about “around the clock” guys, look at this:
Pralay:
October 30th, 2008 at 1:03 am
madhaus:
October 30th, 2008 at 1:56 am
anon:
October 30th, 2008 at 2:12 am
October 30th, 2008 at 10:17 am
looks like this was a board for insomniacs last night.
So, have you done any traveling for work lately, RE? I’m wondering if you’re getting your allotment of FF miles with the slowing economy.
October 30th, 2008 at 10:30 am
OK, here’s an interesting one to talk about; interesting because it’s the only legitimate Short Sale I’m been able to find in the Real Bay Area:
The address is 734 Liverpool Way, Sunnyvale, CA 94087
The comment on MLS says:
“We have had many offers over $ 850,000 on this home. The owner has accepted one and we are working on getting an updated short sale approval from the lender. One lender, pre-approved short sale in Cupertino school district. You can still bring other offers. CAR Short Sale Addendum parag C: Lender my require seller to forward any other offer recieved.”
Current bid shown is $900K. This has gotta be the bottom of 94087, as virtually every other house in the area is over $1M.
madhaus, does your kid know this family?
October 30th, 2008 at 11:23 am
I doubt it’s a “family” living there. More like one or two old people. The place is assessed for less than $100k. It’s been refinanced no fewer than FIVE times since 2000. The most recent for $1.044M.
If they needed income, here’s an example where a reverse mortgage may be the best option. At least then they could live there until death.
First refi (in 2000) was for $35k. So how do you spend a million bucks in 8 years? Maybe serious medical problems.
October 30th, 2008 at 11:25 am
Talk about “around the clock” guys, look at this:
Pralay:
October 30th, 2008 at 1:03 am
madhaus:
October 30th, 2008 at 1:56 am
anon:
October 30th, 2008 at 2:12 am
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Chuckie said that he is trying to make his kids well-rounded. Well, if Chuckie had a scant of well-roundedness, he would understand that it is not timestamp that matters. People have different schedules, different free-times. But what is amazing is that Chuckie always give excuses for his round-the-clock posting with his fictitious multi-***** mega-project. He accuses others for “disrupting” his work. What is more amazing is that he does not get that more he says “I am working, I am really working, I am really honestly truely working”, more he becomes a laughable stock. It sound more like a kid who is pretending to do his homeworks while he is doing something else.
Does it sound like a secure guy with his “hitech job”? I don’t think so.
October 30th, 2008 at 11:33 am
Yeah, I think if he was more clever he would’ve claimed to be in China for the 2am posts. That’s 11am over there, and a perfectly respectable hour to not be working like he should. (Like me at the moment!)
October 30th, 2008 at 11:35 am
OK, here’s an interesting one to talk about; interesting because it’s the only legitimate Short Sale I’m been able to find in the Real Bay Area:
The address is 734 Liverpool Way, Sunnyvale, CA 94087
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That’s pretty sad for RBA where “overbidding is everywhere”.
According to redfin, the sales history is pretty long and it started from 1.2 million.
October 30th, 2008 at 11:39 am
Yeah, I think if he was more clever he would’ve claimed ……
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Well, he lives in RBA. How could he not be “clever”?
October 30th, 2008 at 1:23 pm
>>Yeah, I think if he was more clever he would’ve claimed to be in China for the 2am posts.
That would be deceptive, wouldn’t it. I’m just being honest.
What is truely amazing is 3 people staying up til 2AM just to talk about me. Look at this laughable statement:
>>Well, if Chuckie had a scant of well-roundedness, he would understand that it is not timestamp that matters. People have different schedules, different free-times.
That sure is an interesting schedule. The priority at 2AM is to talk about RealEstater on Burbed!
October 30th, 2008 at 1:26 pm
It’s not like there was anything else interesting to talk about. When there is nothing going on, RealEstater makes for a fascinating subject!
October 30th, 2008 at 1:26 pm
That sure is an interesting schedule. The priority at 2AM is to talk about RealEstater on Burbed!
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But not as interesting as having conference call to India for multi-timezone, multi-country, multi-million-dollar mega-project.
October 30th, 2008 at 1:28 pm
“That’s pretty sad for RBA where “overbidding is everywhere”.
According to redfin, the sales history is pretty long and it started from 1.2 million.
Listing Price History
Date Price
Aug 13, 2008 $1,198,888
Sep 06, 2008 $999,888
Oct 16, 2008 $888,888
Oct 16, 2008 $999,888
Oct 17, 2008 $1,010,000
Oct 21, 2008 $699,999
Oct 28, 2008 $850,000
Oct 29, 2008 $900,000″
whoah easy now don’t be talkin’ bad about the rba.
they’re just lowering it until they get more than one bid.
You see, they only got one offer on Oct 21, 2008 when it was listed for $699,999. AS WE ALL KNOW, RBA CANNOT SELL WITH JUST ONE OFFER! Soooo. Seller backed out and they are now waiting for two offers to come for a single sale price.
LOL. Property bubbles.
October 30th, 2008 at 1:34 pm
When there is nothing going on, RealEstater makes for a fascinating subject!
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How come we are still not seeing Chuckie on cover page of Silicon Valley hitech industry magazines for his 24-hour management of his mega-project? That got to be interesting! Or at least techonogy/business section of Mercury News?
October 30th, 2008 at 1:40 pm
“What is truely amazing is 3 people staying up til 2AM just to talk about me. Look at this laughable statement:
>>Well, if Chuckie had a scant of well-roundedness, he would understand that it is not timestamp that matters. People have different schedules, different free-times.
That sure is an interesting schedule. The priority at 2AM is to talk about RealEstater on Burbed!”
Unbelievable. I’ve been an insomniac/night person for nearly 40 years. And, now that I post on burbed, the reason that I stay up late is because of chuck. Hellooooo overly inflated feeling of self importance.
“When there is nothing going on, RealEstater makes for a fascinating subject!”
Ain’t that the truth? Like a good lover, he blows your mind every time.
October 30th, 2008 at 1:40 pm
>>But not as interesting as having conference call to India for multi-timezone, multi-country, multi-million-dollar mega-project.
Pralay,
Ever heard of 24X7 IT Infrastructure? Ever worked with Wipro? If the answer is no and no, it’s no wonder you are clueless.
October 30th, 2008 at 1:42 pm
>>“That’s pretty sad for RBA where “overbidding is everywhere”.
Yes, including this one!
October 30th, 2008 at 1:43 pm
This does not rebut his statements.
You could just have well said that the earth spins on an axis.
October 30th, 2008 at 1:57 pm
RealEstater – You work at Wipro? That’s an interesting tidbit of information.
anon – Almost 40-year old? That’s an interesting tidbit of information.
October 30th, 2008 at 1:59 pm
And, now that I post on burbed, the reason that I stay up late is because of chuck. Hellooooo overly inflated feeling of self importance.
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Of course everything is due to Chuckie. If someday you manage multi-timezone, multi-country, multi-million-dollar mega-project, that’s because you got inspired by Chuckie.
If someday you have a sub-zero refrigerator, that’s because you got influenced by Chuckie.
You are living in bay area – that’s because of Chuckie.
Therefore, Anon, why not get inspired in another aspect? Become a homeowner in RBA. BUY HOME NOW. It’s great time to buy home now. Don’t get priced out forever.
October 30th, 2008 at 1:59 pm
DreamT,
Confused about the difference between work “for” and work “with”?
October 30th, 2008 at 2:02 pm
RealEstater – Not a bit. Pralay may only need to be working “with” Wipro to get a clue, while you could be working “with” or “for” Wipro. Since one may work “with” Wipro in any capacity for any type of project, your question to Pralay really makes sense only if you’re a Wipro insider.
October 30th, 2008 at 2:03 pm
Ever heard of 24X7 IT Infrastructure? Ever worked with Wipro? If the answer is no and no, it’s no wonder you are clueless.
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Chuckie,
Wipro? Is it the best example you got in internet about hitech industry? I am just laughing out loud and can’t stop.
Chuckie, do you want to know more details about Wipro (including some lawsuits on immigration and labor law frauds)?
October 30th, 2008 at 2:11 pm
DreamT,
You see, Pralay is unable to make any specific responses. The original discussion was about working with offshore entities, and he’s trying to deflect the question to some unrelated stuff about laws.
October 30th, 2008 at 2:13 pm
I’m eagerly awaiting more “details”. I can easily tell if he’s blowing smoke here.
October 30th, 2008 at 2:17 pm
Ever worked with Wipro? If the answer is no and no, it’s no wonder you are clueless.
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Ok, let’s shed some details for Chuckie The Clueless. Wipro is primarily IT service company (interestingly Wipro started its business by selling detergent soaps and gradually opened a IT office in Bangalore and expanded). Its primary revenue comes from IT service (not any hitech product development in their own).
There are numbers of Wipro managers in bay area who manage those IT service projects. Therefore, if Chuckie’s company is offshoring a project to Wipro, it NOT Chuckie who needs to stay up till 2AM. That job is for those Wipro managers. And they are being paid (by Chuckie’s company) for staying up till 2AM, if required, so that Chuckie does not have to work beyond 5PM.
Chuckie,
Let’s talk about real estate. At least you have some knowledge in that topic. Hitech industry is not your area. It’s very evident.
October 30th, 2008 at 2:23 pm
“anon – Almost 40-year old? That’s an interesting tidbit of information.”
Well, I didn’t stay up until 2am when I was a young child… Middle aged donkey fits.
“Therefore, Anon, why not get inspired in another aspect? Become a homeowner in RBA. BUY HOME NOW. It’s great time to buy home now. Don’t get priced out forever.”
Oh crap. So, you’re saying: if I don’t buy now, I may never be able to?! Well, this is bad. How will I live near my job? What about my kids? There is no other world than bay area; I’ve got to act fast. Quick: do you know a broker? Any one will do.
October 30th, 2008 at 2:24 pm
“I’m eagerly awaiting more “details”. I can easily tell if he’s blowing smoke here.”
This is rich – Chuck’s trying to nail someone down.
Ah HA – you did not give the answer I was looking for therefore you do not know what you are talking about. You are unqualified to participate in this discussion.
October 30th, 2008 at 2:25 pm
LOL. Pralay, you seem quite eager to change the subject? Feeling a bit guilty about stuff you have not been in touch with?
Are you basing your response on some stuff you read on the net, word or mouth, or actual experience? I can tell you I’m not buying any detergent soap from them!
October 30th, 2008 at 2:26 pm
You see, Pralay is unable to make any specific responses. The original discussion was about working with offshore entities, and he’s trying to deflect the question to some unrelated stuff about laws.
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Chuckie,
I am trying to make simple as possible.
Let’s assume Chuckie’s company is offshoring multi-**** mega-project to Wipro. And there is a manager in Wipro Mr Raghavan, who is located at bay area, has responsibility of looking after Chuckie’s mega-project. Mr Raghavan would interact with Chuckie The Customer whole day (Chuckie’s normal working hours). Then if required Mr Raghavan will stay up till 2AM and talk to counterparts or “worker bees” in Wipro India. That’s how Wipro works.
Bottomline, Chuckie does not need to stay up till 2AM to work “with Wipro”. As he is claiming so, that mean his whole mega-project is a fabricated.
October 30th, 2008 at 2:27 pm
“Let’s talk about real estate. At least you have some knowledge in that topic. Hitech industry is not your area. It’s very evident.”
Yes, lets. I believe an outstanding question is the relative proportion of appreciation between an RBA home and a BA home during this past boom.
October 30th, 2008 at 2:29 pm
“LOL. Pralay, you seem quite eager to change the subject? Feeling a bit guilty about stuff you have not been in touch with?
Are you basing your response on some stuff you read on the net, word or mouth, or actual experience? I can tell you I’m not buying any detergent soap from them!”
Jealous? Yeah. You’re jealous. I knew it. Now I’m responding with something irrelevant.
October 30th, 2008 at 2:29 pm
above is translation from RE to english.
October 30th, 2008 at 2:34 pm
Are you basing your response on some stuff you read on the net, word or mouth, or actual experience? I can tell you I’m not buying any detergent soap from them!
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Chuckie,
I still have college batchmates, seniors and juniors working for Wipro and they are living in various parts of USA – two of them in bay area. If you want I can introduce them with you.
On the other hand, if your mega-project is real (not a fictitious one), you must have interacted with one of these two guys already – as he looks after some of the projects in bay area. In that case I can find who you are in real life.
October 30th, 2008 at 2:41 pm
Sounds like he’s a customer. But he’s also got worker bees to do the real work for him.
So he doesn’t really know what’s going on. He just knows somewhere someone in his company pays money to the company in exchange for services.
From then, its a simple logical assignment.
RBA Property owner = expert on rba property
porsche owner = expert on porsches
extrapolates into:
consumer of company’s product = expert on company’s product
October 30th, 2008 at 2:47 pm
I can tell you I’m not buying any detergent soap from them!
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Chuckie,
Interestingly IT branch of Wipro never discloses about the origin of Wipro. IT section of Wipro never associates itself with Wipro soap section (because white collar Wipro guys sitting in front of computers never want to associate with blue collar factory workers). So you won’t find those information in internet. But some Bangalore people knows it.
October 30th, 2008 at 2:48 pm
Prlay,
Sure, please call them up right now.
Would your college batchmates happen to be from here?
October 30th, 2008 at 3:01 pm
Would your college batchmates happen to be from here?
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Chuckie,
Never heard about this university. And in my workplaces I never met anybody from this university either. In the state of Maharastra there are certain colleges which are famous of producing good computer science (and engineering) grads. This university is definitely not one of them. Needless to say that it is located very rural north part of the state where there is not many industries.
It seems Chuckie working hard to prove that he knows something.
October 30th, 2008 at 3:05 pm
Pralay,
I think you’re getting the idea that I know more than you expect. Ever heard of this school? One of my management pals went there.
October 30th, 2008 at 3:07 pm
We’re not around tomorrow night so we’d like to tour well-decorated neighborhoods tonight (yes, in the rain…) Anybody has suggestions of specific stretches of streets? (bob, don’t bother listing Alameda)
October 30th, 2008 at 3:11 pm
One of my management pals went there.
lol of course he did and I bet you both get along just fine.
October 30th, 2008 at 3:14 pm
“We’re not around tomorrow night so we’d like to tour well-decorated neighborhoods tonight (yes, in the rain…) Anybody has suggestions of specific stretches of streets? (bob, don’t bother listing Alameda)”
nevada street in willow glen. maybe youll see wg.
October 30th, 2008 at 3:16 pm
“Pralay,
I think you’re getting the idea that I know more than you expect. Ever heard of this school? One of my management pals went there.”
Now, chuck, is this a good university? It does have ‘management’ in the name.
October 30th, 2008 at 3:25 pm
I think you’re getting the idea that I know more than you expect. Ever heard of this school? One of my management pals went there.
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Yes Chuckie knows something. In internet he found some university name in rural area of a state which barely produces engineers to have visibility in national area. And then he is talking about IIM-K. The real question how does he know that “his management pal” is not from IIM-A or IIM-B or IIM-J? Because that’s how normally IIM guys introduces themselves – “I am from IIM” (no “K” or “B” or “A”). Needless to say that IIM guys rarely join IT companies. They have better payscales in financial/investment companies. IT companies never can match with financial/investment companies in salaries and perks.
October 30th, 2008 at 4:05 pm
(at least until the last month or two, Pralay.) Just guessing based on the recent financial implosion.
October 30th, 2008 at 5:02 pm
Sad part is, nomadic… While everyone’s portfolio (yes this includes real property) exploded 20-40%, they probably have not suffered any cuts in pay…there are simply less jobs.
I have 3 family members back east who work for Baer sterns. They’re working for morgan guarantee or whoever now. They actually bumped their salaries while they kept them on to help the transition. LOL
October 30th, 2008 at 5:13 pm
“On the other hand, if your mega-project is real (not a fictitious one), you must have interacted with one of these two guys already – as he looks after some of the projects in bay area. In that case I can find who you are in real life.”
Pralay, Your Wipro friends will be able to easily spot him by looking at his wrist. RE will be the one that has RBA diamonds around his watch face.
October 30th, 2008 at 5:26 pm
more on 277, I should have mentioned that a good number were laid off and the ones that remain are only there until mid 2009. Still, the point remains that wall street’s still alive and kicking full with obscene compensation packages.
October 30th, 2008 at 5:27 pm
Pralay, Your Wipro friends will be able to easily spot him by looking at his wrist. RE will be the one that has RBA diamonds around his watch face.
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Good point, Stepford. I was thinking along the line of Porsche, 94301 and sub-zero refrigerator.
October 30th, 2008 at 5:32 pm
(at least until the last month or two, Pralay.) Just guessing based on the recent financial implosion.
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You are right, nomadic. IIM campus recruitment is already in trouble.
So you might find some of these guys in IT companies now, including Chuckie’s favorite company Wipro.
October 30th, 2008 at 5:58 pm
Now, chuck, is this a good university? It does have ‘management’ in the name.
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Anon,
Asking an Indian college grad if he/she ever heard of IIM is like asking an American college grad if he/she ever head of Harvard. That’s exactly our Chuckie did and it shows his ignorance.
But the real question remains unanswered – what was Chuckie doing with Wipro guys at 2AM?
October 30th, 2008 at 6:01 pm
collecting their garbage.
October 30th, 2008 at 6:11 pm
You are all assuming too much. Chuckie probably was cleaning up a conference room and saw something on Wipro letterhead that hadn’t hit the recycling bin. As for IIM, that was a discarded resume.
Don’t tell me any of you think Chuckie actually manages either people or projects!
So, anon, you are older than I figured you for. Why are you allowing your kids to live in rented squalor? Don’t you realize that there’s no lawn to water in a Cayenne?
October 30th, 2008 at 6:15 pm
anon, I’m not at all surprised about the impact on financial companies. Salaries won’t change, bonuses will remain astronomical. There’ll just be fewer of those cushy jobs for a few years.
That’s really not much different from other industries – when the crunch hits, the people who keep their jobs generally don’t suffer, aside from an increased work load to cover for a smaller staff.
October 30th, 2008 at 6:19 pm
Pralay, just out of curiosity, roughly what is this in USD?
Until last March, the investment bank had doled out average annual packages, Rs 80 lakh to 90 lakh.
October 30th, 2008 at 6:23 pm
True, but this is a bit different. They’re being investigated by the FBI – hopefully they make some examples. Also, they are actually attempting to try to start putting executive comp packages in check. Greenspan just conceded that the level of regulation advocates isn’t enough. It should be interesting in the coming years.
October 30th, 2008 at 9:12 pm
> Don’t tell me any of you think Chuckie actually manages either people or projects!
Some play fantasy football. RealEstater plays fantasy zipcode.
October 30th, 2008 at 11:45 pm
“nevada street in willow glen”
Nothing to report there or in the adjacent streets. The houses are really nice (a bit close to each other though) and the tree-lined streets look eerie in the dark. Some bat patches on the round, orange street lamps. But no real fancy Halloween work save for a couple of houses. Oh well
October 31st, 2008 at 12:09 am
sorry. There used to be a lot of activity there. I would imagine its better actually on Halloween…
October 31st, 2008 at 1:44 am
With the rain and the tainted milk-based Chinese candies, Halloween might be a subdued affair this year overall. Still that area of Willow Glen is more quaint than I had realized.
October 31st, 2008 at 9:50 am
Pralay, just out of curiosity, roughly what is this in USD?
Until last March, the investment bank had doled out average annual packages, Rs 80 lakh to 90 lakh.
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80 lakh is roughly US$ 160K.
1 lakh = 10K. US$ 1 = Re 50.
October 31st, 2008 at 1:32 pm
Pralay, check your math. If 1 lakh is 10,000, then 80 lakh of rupees is 800,000 rupees (80 x 10,000). Dividing by fifty yields USD 16,000.
However, you are right about the salary value, but wrong about the conversion. Unless Wikipedia is wrong, lakh = 100,000 not 10,000.
See also crore (=100 lakh or ten million) and for more fun, the Indian numbering system.
October 31st, 2008 at 2:08 pm
You are right Madhaus. 1 lakh is 100K.
October 31st, 2008 at 11:38 pm
I read River of Gods. That is why I know lakh and crore from a hole in the ground.
May 27th, 2009 at 1:31 pm
Check out the new price.
Looks like a great opportunity for Pralay to move up!
May 27th, 2009 at 1:38 pm
Now below 2006 purchase price. No downturn here!
Thanks for the update, RE. First useful thing from you.
May 27th, 2009 at 1:40 pm
No downturn here! Higher priced Sunnyvale homes are selling like hot cakes!
May 27th, 2009 at 1:41 pm
Why do you think it was featured on Burbed in the first place? Because the property was grossly over-priced in the first place.
August 26th, 2010 at 8:51 am
Sold! It only took a little over two years to find a buyer.
I’m wondering, was it to the seller’s advantage to hold out for the two years? You know, he had to wait for it to go up in value, right? Up to the former value:
“May 06, 2010 Sold (Public Records) $850,000 0.0%/yr Public Records
May 06, 2010 Sold (MLS) $850,000 – Inactive MLSListings #80787363
Mar 29, 2010 Delisted – – Inactive MLSListings #80787363
Mar 25, 2010 Price Changed ** – Inactive MLSListings #80787363
Mar 25, 2010 Relisted – – Inactive MLSListings #80787363
May 28, 2009 Delisted – – Inactive MLSListings #80787363
May 20, 2009 Price Changed ** – Inactive MLSListings #80787363
Apr 21, 2009 Price Changed ** – Inactive MLSListings #80787363
Mar 09, 2009 Price Changed ** – Inactive MLSListings #80787363
Feb 23, 2009 Price Changed ** – Inactive MLSListings #80787363
Jul 04, 2008 Price Changed ** – Inactive MLSListings #80787363
Mar 28, 2008 Listed ** – Inactive MLSListings #80787363
Dec 14, 2006 Sold (Public Records) $850,000 10.3%/yr Public Records”
Note that the time it took to sell is longer than the time it took to decide to list.
Wonder why it did go up in value? Wonder why it took two years to sell for no gain. Is waiting two years to sell a loss? (Oh, that’s right, we had to wait to years for it to gain value up to $850k–that’s not a loss, right?)
But more importantly, will it go up in value by the time the current owner wants to sell? Past performance on this one is not so good.