Comments on: Where to buy? What to buy? When to buy? http://www.burbed.com/2009/03/27/where-to-buy-what-to-buy-when-to-buy/ San Francisco Bay Area, Silicon Valley House Price and Mortgage Insanity Blog Wed, 08 Feb 2012 21:58:04 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: nomadic http://www.burbed.com/2009/03/27/where-to-buy-what-to-buy-when-to-buy/#comment-29839 nomadic Thu, 02 Apr 2009 03:42:49 +0000 http://www.burbed.com/?p=3218#comment-29839 I saw the charts. First tab. Those tabs must've been mighty small on a 7" screen. I saw the charts. First tab. Those tabs must’ve been mighty small on a 7″ screen.

]]> By: A. Lewis http://www.burbed.com/2009/03/27/where-to-buy-what-to-buy-when-to-buy/#comment-29838 A. Lewis Thu, 02 Apr 2009 02:38:14 +0000 http://www.burbed.com/?p=3218#comment-29838 And I forgive you for having a 7" screen b/c netbooks are cool. And I forgive you for having a 7″ screen b/c netbooks are cool.

]]> By: A. Lewis http://www.burbed.com/2009/03/27/where-to-buy-what-to-buy-when-to-buy/#comment-29837 A. Lewis Thu, 02 Apr 2009 02:35:56 +0000 http://www.burbed.com/?p=3218#comment-29837 #151 - bizarre - the 1st tab is called "Charts". Anybody else having this problem or can you see what I'm talking. What version of Excel are you using to view it? I created it in Excel 2003 (windows). If you are viewing it in something besides Excel, it's possible the charts are getting mangled (M$ software doesn't always play well with others)...I could make screenshots or something for you, but that sounds tiring... #151 – bizarre – the 1st tab is called “Charts”. Anybody else having this problem or can you see what I’m talking.

What version of Excel are you using to view it? I created it in Excel 2003 (windows).

If you are viewing it in something besides Excel, it’s possible the charts are getting mangled (M$ software doesn’t always play well with others)…I could make screenshots or something for you, but that sounds tiring…

]]> By: madhaus http://www.burbed.com/2009/03/27/where-to-buy-what-to-buy-when-to-buy/#comment-29836 madhaus Wed, 01 Apr 2009 23:46:57 +0000 http://www.burbed.com/?p=3218#comment-29836 <b>A</b>, I didn't see any charts anywhere, and I looked at all the tabs. You're saying there's a tab called charts? Where is it? I did not see a single graph. No I am not complaining about too many charts, but about no charts. 7 inch screen? It's my netbook. I have a bigger screen on my desk but I'm not on that one now. And I'm on my netbook because I do all my writing on it. A, I didn’t see any charts anywhere, and I looked at all the tabs. You’re saying there’s a tab called charts? Where is it? I did not see a single graph.

No I am not complaining about too many charts, but about no charts.

7 inch screen? It’s my netbook. I have a bigger screen on my desk but I’m not on that one now. And I’m on my netbook because I do all my writing on it.

]]> By: nomadic http://www.burbed.com/2009/03/27/where-to-buy-what-to-buy-when-to-buy/#comment-29835 nomadic Wed, 01 Apr 2009 23:18:32 +0000 http://www.burbed.com/?p=3218#comment-29835 Yes, A., the trends are generally valid all over the area. At least in my useless opinion. ;-) I suspect that they aren't quite as steep in our main areas of interest because we don't have the distorting effects of places like CoCo county or East San Jose. BTW, your links may have been eaten. Burbed posted in another thread that he liberated some from spam purgatory. Yes, A., the trends are generally valid all over the area. At least in my useless opinion. ;-) I suspect that they aren’t quite as steep in our main areas of interest because we don’t have the distorting effects of places like CoCo county or East San Jose.

BTW, your links may have been eaten. Burbed posted in another thread that he liberated some from spam purgatory.

]]> By: A. Lewis http://www.burbed.com/2009/03/27/where-to-buy-what-to-buy-when-to-buy/#comment-29834 A. Lewis Wed, 01 Apr 2009 23:15:34 +0000 http://www.burbed.com/?p=3218#comment-29834 #144 - um - could you clarify your advice? I may have saved the excel file on a different tab, so maybe it wasn't obvious when you opened it - but I meant you to look at the Charts tab (and not a table of numbers). And the first chart in the upper left corner summarizes most everything - the others are calculations or variants of the same data in that chart. Are you complaining there are too many charts? OK... But what on earth kind of 7 inch screen are you stuck with? Can you not check it out later when you get home on something decent? #144 – um – could you clarify your advice? I may have saved the excel file on a different tab, so maybe it wasn’t obvious when you opened it – but I meant you to look at the Charts tab (and not a table of numbers).

And the first chart in the upper left corner summarizes most everything – the others are calculations or variants of the same data in that chart.

Are you complaining there are too many charts? OK…

But what on earth kind of 7 inch screen are you stuck with? Can you not check it out later when you get home on something decent?

]]> By: A. Lewis http://www.burbed.com/2009/03/27/where-to-buy-what-to-buy-when-to-buy/#comment-29833 A. Lewis Wed, 01 Apr 2009 23:10:23 +0000 http://www.burbed.com/?p=3218#comment-29833 Actually, it looks like the links never got eaten, I just didn't see they were working. When I hit submit comment, it refreshed the page, but didn't show my comment, so I thought it was gone. That's why I basically posted 3 times. I should have just waited 10 minutes to see if it worked or not, I guess. I don't mean to suggest the C-S data in some way is a proxy for specific parts of the RBA/MRBA, etc., especially since it doesn't include Santa Clara County! But it does include lots of high end parts of lots of the BA, many of which have similar dynamics. And I think the price RISES from 2001-2007 look very familiar to a lot of us, right? So while it may be more of a picture of the BA/MRBA at best, it's still important data that show the size of the bubble, and also give an INDICATION (if not a detailed picture), of the variation around it that occurred in different price tiers. So you can post your own curve in for a particular house if you have 2 or 3 price points, and decide for yourself have inflated it is relative to historical trends, and guess for yourself if and how far it might drop. Keep in mind - this is AFTER I correct for inflation. I update it once a month as the C-S data comes out. I tend to watch the high tier, which I think is sort of like MRBA properties. Actually, it looks like the links never got eaten, I just didn’t see they were working. When I hit submit comment, it refreshed the page, but didn’t show my comment, so I thought it was gone. That’s why I basically posted 3 times.

I should have just waited 10 minutes to see if it worked or not, I guess.

I don’t mean to suggest the C-S data in some way is a proxy for specific parts of the RBA/MRBA, etc., especially since it doesn’t include Santa Clara County!

But it does include lots of high end parts of lots of the BA, many of which have similar dynamics.

And I think the price RISES from 2001-2007 look very familiar to a lot of us, right?

So while it may be more of a picture of the BA/MRBA at best, it’s still important data that show the size of the bubble, and also give an INDICATION (if not a detailed picture), of the variation around it that occurred in different price tiers.

So you can post your own curve in for a particular house if you have 2 or 3 price points, and decide for yourself have inflated it is relative to historical trends, and guess for yourself if and how far it might drop.

Keep in mind – this is AFTER I correct for inflation.

I update it once a month as the C-S data comes out. I tend to watch the high tier, which I think is sort of like MRBA properties.

]]> By: burbed http://www.burbed.com/2009/03/27/where-to-buy-what-to-buy-when-to-buy/#comment-29832 burbed Wed, 01 Apr 2009 22:10:11 +0000 http://www.burbed.com/?p=3218#comment-29832 I think if you TinyURL the links, the spam filter won't eat them. Or it may. I think if you TinyURL the links, the spam filter won’t eat them. Or it may.

]]> By: nomadic http://www.burbed.com/2009/03/27/where-to-buy-what-to-buy-when-to-buy/#comment-29831 nomadic Wed, 01 Apr 2009 22:00:45 +0000 http://www.burbed.com/?p=3218#comment-29831 The other disappointing aspect of the hard work A. put into his C-S data is that it's for the SF MSA. Doesn't even include Santa Clara county at all. Gets muddied by the apocalypse in Contra Costa county too. The other disappointing aspect of the hard work A. put into his C-S data is that it’s for the SF MSA. Doesn’t even include Santa Clara county at all. Gets muddied by the apocalypse in Contra Costa county too.

]]> By: DreamT http://www.burbed.com/2009/03/27/where-to-buy-what-to-buy-when-to-buy/#comment-29830 DreamT Wed, 01 Apr 2009 21:49:28 +0000 http://www.burbed.com/?p=3218#comment-29830 #138 - Well observed. #140 - Thanks A. for sharing this data. Unfortunately the high-tier ought to be split 2-3 times again in the bay area to really reflect different dynamics (see the 2001-2002 numbers that represent nothing like the actual reality on the field), and it would be so much better if the low tier for ex. was the low third of house stock rather than an arbitrary price point or the low third of house <b>sales</b>. Then we could really evaluate the true changes in value. Or am I misinterpreting? :) #138 – Well observed.
#140 – Thanks A. for sharing this data. Unfortunately the high-tier ought to be split 2-3 times again in the bay area to really reflect different dynamics (see the 2001-2002 numbers that represent nothing like the actual reality on the field), and it would be so much better if the low tier for ex. was the low third of house stock rather than an arbitrary price point or the low third of house sales. Then we could really evaluate the true changes in value. Or am I misinterpreting? :)

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