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	<title>Comments on: 28% of San Francisco homes on sale have had price cut &#8211; San Francisco Business Times:</title>
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		<title>By: nomadic</title>
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		<dc:creator>nomadic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:11:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>get a room</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>get a room</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:40:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why thank you, non-unreal Alex.</description>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 14:16:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>pecuniary.  anon, you are quite pedantic.  me likey</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pecuniary.  anon, you are quite pedantic.  me likey</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 07:30:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have found that the people who are &quot;big on education&quot; typically aren&#039;t very educated themselves.  As a result, they don&#039;t tend to really know what &quot;education&quot; means.  This causes them to be easily mislead and generally results in a situation which is less to their pecuniary advantage.

Your mileage may vary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have found that the people who are &#8220;big on education&#8221; typically aren&#8217;t very educated themselves.  As a result, they don&#8217;t tend to really know what &#8220;education&#8221; means.  This causes them to be easily mislead and generally results in a situation which is less to their pecuniary advantage.</p>
<p>Your mileage may vary.</p>
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		<title>By: Pralay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pralay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 06:41:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Is she literate?&lt;/i&gt;
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You mean SV Shopper&#039;s wife? I don&#039;t think so. That&#039;s why she need a &quot;big on education&quot; title from her husband.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Is she literate?</i><br />
&#8212;-</p>
<p>You mean SV Shopper&#8217;s wife? I don&#8217;t think so. That&#8217;s why she need a &#8220;big on education&#8221; title from her husband.</p>
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		<title>By: Top Dog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Top Dog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 06:31:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is she literate?</description>
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		<title>By: Pralay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pralay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 06:17:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Pralay: It’s plenty obvious that your dad’s wife is not very big on education&lt;/i&gt;
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No, she wasn&#039;t. The only wife in this world is &quot;big on education&quot; is someone whose husband drives NYC Yellow cab on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.burbed.com/2009/07/24/san-jose-avoided-the-housing-bubble/#comment-49087&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Madison Ave&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Pralay: It’s plenty obvious that your dad’s wife is not very big on education</i><br />
&#8212;-</p>
<p>No, she wasn&#8217;t. The only wife in this world is &#8220;big on education&#8221; is someone whose husband drives NYC Yellow cab on <a href="http://www.burbed.com/2009/07/24/san-jose-avoided-the-housing-bubble/#comment-49087" rel="nofollow">Madison Ave</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Top Dog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Top Dog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 06:01:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pralay: It&#039;s plenty obvious that your dad&#039;s wife is not very big on education :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pralay: It&#8217;s plenty obvious that your dad&#8217;s wife is not very big on education <img src='http://www.burbed.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Pralay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pralay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 05:23:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;while the higher priced areas have rising inventory as seen in the the graph below
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The higher priced zip codes currently have sales far below normal levels in the 2000s.&lt;/i&gt;
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That&#039;s simply impossible. There is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.burbed.com/2009/11/20/silicon-valley-unemployment-may-be-high/#comment-53340&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;TOTALLY no inventory right now&quot;&lt;/a&gt;. And &quot;professional realtor&quot; from Coldwell Banker is saying &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.burbed.com/2009/11/13/this-2-million-dollar-house-is-great-for-ants/#comment-53121&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;multiple offers are becoming quite common&quot;&lt;/a&gt;. Based on these two facts, how do you explain that inventory is rising and sale volume is dropping in higher priced areas? Your data is simply incorrect.

BTW, probably you started thinking that SV Shopper is looking for cheap 1 bedroom condo in East Palo Alto (lower priced areas where inventory is dropping). Stop right there. His &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.burbed.com/2009/07/24/san-jose-avoided-the-housing-bubble/#comment-48993&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;wife is big on education&lt;/a&gt;. He even defined &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.burbed.com/2009/07/24/san-jose-avoided-the-housing-bubble/#comment-48996&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;his requirement&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>while the higher priced areas have rising inventory as seen in the the graph below<br />
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The higher priced zip codes currently have sales far below normal levels in the 2000s.</i><br />
&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s simply impossible. There is <a href="http://www.burbed.com/2009/11/20/silicon-valley-unemployment-may-be-high/#comment-53340" rel="nofollow">&#8220;TOTALLY no inventory right now&#8221;</a>. And &#8220;professional realtor&#8221; from Coldwell Banker is saying <a href="http://www.burbed.com/2009/11/13/this-2-million-dollar-house-is-great-for-ants/#comment-53121" rel="nofollow">&#8220;multiple offers are becoming quite common&#8221;</a>. Based on these two facts, how do you explain that inventory is rising and sale volume is dropping in higher priced areas? Your data is simply incorrect.</p>
<p>BTW, probably you started thinking that SV Shopper is looking for cheap 1 bedroom condo in East Palo Alto (lower priced areas where inventory is dropping). Stop right there. His <a href="http://www.burbed.com/2009/07/24/san-jose-avoided-the-housing-bubble/#comment-48993" rel="nofollow">wife is big on education</a>. He even defined <a href="http://www.burbed.com/2009/07/24/san-jose-avoided-the-housing-bubble/#comment-48996" rel="nofollow">his requirement</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Pralay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pralay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 05:05:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More party news:
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2009-11-22-parties-in-vacant-homes_N.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Real estate bust opens doors for parties at vacant houses&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More party news:<br />
<a href="http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2009-11-22-parties-in-vacant-homes_N.htm" rel="nofollow">Real estate bust opens doors for parties at vacant houses</a></p>
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		<title>By: Gavin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gavin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:50:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bringing the discussion back to housing inventory and price cuts, here are my observations for Redwood city.

The image below shows the 94061, 94062 and 94063 zip codes in Redwood city. The first zip code is the moderately prices areas of Redwood city between El Camino Real and Interstate 280. The 94062 zip code includes Woodside and the higher priced areas. The 94063 zip code has the lowest priced homes between highway 101 and El Camino Real
http://www.flickr.com/photos/34699369@N04/4129284858/

The housing market in these zip codes have fared very differently. The lowest priced zip code has seen falling inventory over the last two years while the higher priced areas have rising inventory as seen in the the graph below
http://www.flickr.com/photos/34699369@N04/4129284864/

Another indicator that the market in the lowest priced zip code has gone back to normal is that the sales are currently above average for this decade. The higher priced zip codes currently have sales far below normal levels in the 2000s. See the graph below
http://www.flickr.com/photos/34699369@N04/4129284868/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bringing the discussion back to housing inventory and price cuts, here are my observations for Redwood city.</p>
<p>The image below shows the 94061, 94062 and 94063 zip codes in Redwood city. The first zip code is the moderately prices areas of Redwood city between El Camino Real and Interstate 280. The 94062 zip code includes Woodside and the higher priced areas. The 94063 zip code has the lowest priced homes between highway 101 and El Camino Real<br />
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/34699369@N04/4129284858/" rel="nofollow">http://www.flickr.com/photos/34699369@N04/4129284858/</a></p>
<p>The housing market in these zip codes have fared very differently. The lowest priced zip code has seen falling inventory over the last two years while the higher priced areas have rising inventory as seen in the the graph below<br />
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/34699369@N04/4129284864/" rel="nofollow">http://www.flickr.com/photos/34699369@N04/4129284864/</a></p>
<p>Another indicator that the market in the lowest priced zip code has gone back to normal is that the sales are currently above average for this decade. The higher priced zip codes currently have sales far below normal levels in the 2000s. See the graph below<br />
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/34699369@N04/4129284868/" rel="nofollow">http://www.flickr.com/photos/34699369@N04/4129284868/</a></p>
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		<title>By: nomadic</title>
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		<dc:creator>nomadic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:49:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just read the article Pralay posted - our f*cked up state government is at it again:

&lt;i&gt;Earlier this decade, the Legislature increased unemployment benefits, which at the time were among the nation&#039;s most meager. But a proposal to raise employer contributions to fund that expansion failed because it required a two-thirds vote.

Employers pay unemployment taxes only on the first $7,000 each worker earns. That makes California&#039;s cap on taxable wages the lowest in the nation, officials say, and it means the state doesn&#039;t save enough money in good times to weather significant downturns.&lt;/i&gt;

Why didn&#039;t they write the legislation to say IF the tax increase passed, THEN the benefits would be increased??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just read the article Pralay posted &#8211; our f*cked up state government is at it again:</p>
<p><i>Earlier this decade, the Legislature increased unemployment benefits, which at the time were among the nation&#8217;s most meager. But a proposal to raise employer contributions to fund that expansion failed because it required a two-thirds vote.</p>
<p>Employers pay unemployment taxes only on the first $7,000 each worker earns. That makes California&#8217;s cap on taxable wages the lowest in the nation, officials say, and it means the state doesn&#8217;t save enough money in good times to weather significant downturns.</i></p>
<p>Why didn&#8217;t they write the legislation to say IF the tax increase passed, THEN the benefits would be increased??</p>
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		<title>By: Pralay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pralay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:38:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t forget to take &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.burbed.com/2009/11/20/silicon-valley-unemployment-may-be-high/#comment-53305&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;over-employment&lt;/a&gt;&quot; into account. If you balance out, the &lt;b&gt;real&lt;/b&gt; unemployment rate of &lt;b&gt;Real&lt;/b&gt; Bay Area is going to be -8.888888888%. Lots of lucky 8.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t forget to take &#8220;<a href="http://www.burbed.com/2009/11/20/silicon-valley-unemployment-may-be-high/#comment-53305" rel="nofollow">over-employment</a>&#8221; into account. If you balance out, the <b>real</b> unemployment rate of <b>Real</b> Bay Area is going to be -8.888888888%. Lots of lucky 8.</p>
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		<title>By: DreamT</title>
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		<dc:creator>DreamT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 20:53:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pralay, I predict it&#039;ll go down to -2%. Just like with voting: there&#039;ll be more employed people than there are people. You know, for tax reasons. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pralay, I predict it&#8217;ll go down to -2%. Just like with voting: there&#8217;ll be more employed people than there are people. You know, for tax reasons. <img src='http://www.burbed.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Pralay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pralay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 20:39:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Clearly we have to make it MUCH more painful for employers to eliminate a position.&lt;/i&gt;
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That&#039;s where the sliver-lining. CEOs/CFOs in private firms are not dumb. They already started doing the cost-benefit analysis of laying off employees vs keeping them employed and hiring new employees. They will figure that it is less expensive to hire people than paying higher tax. They simply won&#039;t allow tax to go up. To achieve this, they will start hiring people. Just wait for the sudden fury of hiring and California unemployment rate going down from 12% to 0%. As a side effect of this, home price will start going up too. Don&#039;t wait for that moment and get price out forever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Clearly we have to make it MUCH more painful for employers to eliminate a position.</i><br />
&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s where the sliver-lining. CEOs/CFOs in private firms are not dumb. They already started doing the cost-benefit analysis of laying off employees vs keeping them employed and hiring new employees. They will figure that it is less expensive to hire people than paying higher tax. They simply won&#8217;t allow tax to go up. To achieve this, they will start hiring people. Just wait for the sudden fury of hiring and California unemployment rate going down from 12% to 0%. As a side effect of this, home price will start going up too. Don&#8217;t wait for that moment and get price out forever.</p>
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		<title>By: nomadic</title>
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		<dc:creator>nomadic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 20:26:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clearly we have to make it MUCH more painful for employers to eliminate a position.  (Right, Unreal Alex?)

P.S. Nobody mention that some may choose to do business in another state, okay?  Which actually raises an interesting question - how to unemployment taxes (on businesses) compare in CA to other states?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clearly we have to make it MUCH more painful for employers to eliminate a position.  (Right, Unreal Alex?)</p>
<p>P.S. Nobody mention that some may choose to do business in another state, okay?  Which actually raises an interesting question &#8211; how to unemployment taxes (on businesses) compare in CA to other states?</p>
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		<title>By: Pralay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pralay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 19:58:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On t he topic of unemployment, more news from California:
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_13836894?nclick_check=1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Another California crisis: Unemployment fund facing $7.4 billion deficit&lt;/a&gt;

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And if the state is unwilling to tap its operating funds to pay the interest, &lt;b&gt;the federal government would step in with its own tax increase for employers&lt;/b&gt;.

To head off those doomsday scenarios, Schwarzenegger and two lawmakers — Assemblyman Joe Coto, D-San Jose, and state Sen. Denise Moreno Ducheny, D-Chula Vista — &lt;b&gt;have called for increasing the taxes paid by employers&lt;/b&gt;.

Schwarzenegger also wants to re-examine benefits. He&#039;s proposed reducing the percentage of lost wages that unemployment checks replace and &lt;b&gt;tightening eligibility requirements&lt;/b&gt;.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

All the three options just sound perfect. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.burbed.com/2008/09/07/did-rent-soar-whats-the-market-like-near-you/#comment-25495&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;We’re all clear for take-off&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On t he topic of unemployment, more news from California:<br />
<a href="http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_13836894?nclick_check=1" rel="nofollow">Another California crisis: Unemployment fund facing $7.4 billion deficit</a></p>
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And if the state is unwilling to tap its operating funds to pay the interest, <b>the federal government would step in with its own tax increase for employers</b>.</p>
<p>To head off those doomsday scenarios, Schwarzenegger and two lawmakers — Assemblyman Joe Coto, D-San Jose, and state Sen. Denise Moreno Ducheny, D-Chula Vista — <b>have called for increasing the taxes paid by employers</b>.</p>
<p>Schwarzenegger also wants to re-examine benefits. He&#8217;s proposed reducing the percentage of lost wages that unemployment checks replace and <b>tightening eligibility requirements</b>.</p></blockquote>
<p>All the three options just sound perfect. <a href="http://www.burbed.com/2008/09/07/did-rent-soar-whats-the-market-like-near-you/#comment-25495" rel="nofollow">We’re all clear for take-off</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Pralay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pralay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 19:44:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;How do you sell houses to unemployed people?&lt;/i&gt;
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You don&#039;t need to. There are &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.burbed.com/2009/11/20/bank-owned-property-at-attractive-price/#comment-53241&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;investors&lt;/a&gt; who have interest in buying all properties. They will buy with a hope that
- market will turnaround and double digit appreciation will come back pretty soon.
- they will be able to flip their properties to now-unemployed people when they get employed (and it is going to happen pretty soon).

Just look at the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.burbed.com/2009/11/20/bank-owned-property-at-attractive-price/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;EPA property&lt;/a&gt; featured on Burbed last week. According to Zillow, 2002 sale price is $402K and current zestimate is $358K. Don&#039;t you think that an invenstor can buy this property for $171K and sell it for $400K next year? If you don&#039;t think so, you are a doom-and-gloom pessimist who failed to get &quot;pulse of the market&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>How do you sell houses to unemployed people?</i><br />
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<p>You don&#8217;t need to. There are <a href="http://www.burbed.com/2009/11/20/bank-owned-property-at-attractive-price/#comment-53241" rel="nofollow">investors</a> who have interest in buying all properties. They will buy with a hope that<br />
- market will turnaround and double digit appreciation will come back pretty soon.<br />
- they will be able to flip their properties to now-unemployed people when they get employed (and it is going to happen pretty soon).</p>
<p>Just look at the <a href="http://www.burbed.com/2009/11/20/bank-owned-property-at-attractive-price/" rel="nofollow">EPA property</a> featured on Burbed last week. According to Zillow, 2002 sale price is $402K and current zestimate is $358K. Don&#8217;t you think that an invenstor can buy this property for $171K and sell it for $400K next year? If you don&#8217;t think so, you are a doom-and-gloom pessimist who failed to get &#8220;pulse of the market&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:51:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The other thing I wonder is that even now, banks do not have to report all of their assets. There was a change in Mark-to-market reporting. Basically, it allowed banks to pick the assets they wanted to report. Despite owning 100&#039;s of billions of dollars in now-worthless toxic loans, these are not reported at all. That&#039;s how banks have been able to turn around and claim they&#039;ve made a profit when in fact they are still deeply underwater. Eventually these assets will come into play. My guess is that banks have been buying time in the form of pressuring the government to pass tax cut after tax cut in the hopes of artificially inflating a new bubble. I doubt that will happen. If it doesn&#039;t then the piper will ultimately have to be paid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The other thing I wonder is that even now, banks do not have to report all of their assets. There was a change in Mark-to-market reporting. Basically, it allowed banks to pick the assets they wanted to report. Despite owning 100&#8217;s of billions of dollars in now-worthless toxic loans, these are not reported at all. That&#8217;s how banks have been able to turn around and claim they&#8217;ve made a profit when in fact they are still deeply underwater. Eventually these assets will come into play. My guess is that banks have been buying time in the form of pressuring the government to pass tax cut after tax cut in the hopes of artificially inflating a new bubble. I doubt that will happen. If it doesn&#8217;t then the piper will ultimately have to be paid.</p>
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		<title>By: R</title>
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		<dc:creator>R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:28:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One big test will come next April after the Fed stops purchasing mortgage-backed securities, which they have been doing to keep mortgage rates artificially low.  That should push rates to around 6%, which in turn should shave another 10-15% off of prices based on affordability. Combine with this the ever-increasing number of Option ARMs resetting, the jobless recovery, and flat or decreasing salaries, and you can see that prices still have a long way to fall, particularly in CA, home of the Option ARM and 12% unemployment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One big test will come next April after the Fed stops purchasing mortgage-backed securities, which they have been doing to keep mortgage rates artificially low.  That should push rates to around 6%, which in turn should shave another 10-15% off of prices based on affordability. Combine with this the ever-increasing number of Option ARMs resetting, the jobless recovery, and flat or decreasing salaries, and you can see that prices still have a long way to fall, particularly in CA, home of the Option ARM and 12% unemployment.</p>
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