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		<title>By: nomadic</title>
		<link>http://www.burbed.com/2009/12/13/sf-vs-ny-battle-rages-on/#comment-40703</link>
		<dc:creator>nomadic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 23:15:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;So you might want to add a few caveats to your statements, SV Shopper, lest we think you have bad motives.&lt;/i&gt;

Too late, Lewis.  :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>So you might want to add a few caveats to your statements, SV Shopper, lest we think you have bad motives.</i></p>
<p>Too late, Lewis.  <img src='http://www.burbed.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Pralay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pralay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 22:43:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;So you might want to add a few caveats to your statements, SV Shopper, lest we think you have bad motives.&lt;/i&gt;
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How dare you think that he possibly could have bad motives! He just informs us about &quot;low/no/tight inventory&quot; in bay area in regular basis (e.g &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.burbed.com/2009/10/16/silicon-valleys-unemployment-rate-drops-to-11-8-percent/#comment-52241&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.burbed.com/2009/11/20/silicon-valley-unemployment-may-be-high/#comment-53340&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.burbed.com/2009/07/24/san-jose-avoided-the-housing-bubble/#comment-48966&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.burbed.com/2009/09/27/guide-to-neighborhoods-in-the-real-bay-area/#comment-51694&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.burbed.com/2009/07/31/more-affordable-housing-in-san-jose/#comment-49433&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;). He also forecasts in regular basis that next year is going to be tough and &quot;no relief in sight&quot;.

Hurry up, buy something before you get priced out forever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>So you might want to add a few caveats to your statements, SV Shopper, lest we think you have bad motives.</i><br />
&#8212;-</p>
<p>How dare you think that he possibly could have bad motives! He just informs us about &#8220;low/no/tight inventory&#8221; in bay area in regular basis (e.g <a href="http://www.burbed.com/2009/10/16/silicon-valleys-unemployment-rate-drops-to-11-8-percent/#comment-52241" rel="nofollow">this</a>, <a href="http://www.burbed.com/2009/11/20/silicon-valley-unemployment-may-be-high/#comment-53340" rel="nofollow">this</a>, <a href="http://www.burbed.com/2009/07/24/san-jose-avoided-the-housing-bubble/#comment-48966" rel="nofollow">this</a>, <a href="http://www.burbed.com/2009/09/27/guide-to-neighborhoods-in-the-real-bay-area/#comment-51694" rel="nofollow">this</a>, <a href="http://www.burbed.com/2009/07/31/more-affordable-housing-in-san-jose/#comment-49433" rel="nofollow">this</a>). He also forecasts in regular basis that next year is going to be tough and &#8220;no relief in sight&#8221;.</p>
<p>Hurry up, buy something before you get priced out forever.</p>
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		<title>By: Pralay</title>
		<link>http://www.burbed.com/2009/12/13/sf-vs-ny-battle-rages-on/#comment-40701</link>
		<dc:creator>Pralay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 22:21:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those investors are losers. Instead of investing in a place like RBA &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.burbed.com/2008/04/30/21-price-cut-in-milpitas-which-is-why-its-not-in-the-bay-area/#comment-16832&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;where property values always go up&quot;&lt;/a&gt;, they are investing in places where &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.burbed.com/2009/03/11/be-sure-to-find-out-what-the-name-of-the-dog-is/#comment-40654&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;people don&#039;t want to live&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those investors are losers. Instead of investing in a place like RBA <a href="http://www.burbed.com/2008/04/30/21-price-cut-in-milpitas-which-is-why-its-not-in-the-bay-area/#comment-16832" rel="nofollow">&#8220;where property values always go up&#8221;</a>, they are investing in places where <a href="http://www.burbed.com/2009/03/11/be-sure-to-find-out-what-the-name-of-the-dog-is/#comment-40654" rel="nofollow">people don&#8217;t want to live</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: A. Lewis</title>
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		<dc:creator>A. Lewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 22:17:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#17 - investing in Real Estate vs. CDs is quite a different behavior. One is zero risk, the other has substantial risk, and substantial potential reward, neither of which is predictable.

And people who invested in Vegas and Antioch real estate in 2006 that has lost 50% of it&#039;s value did not &quot;easily beat&quot; the 3% they could have made on CDs at the time. In fact, they got slaughtered, some of them have declared bankruptcy, and are in a world of misery.

So you might want to add a few caveats to your statements, SV Shopper, lest we think you have bad motives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#17 &#8211; investing in Real Estate vs. CDs is quite a different behavior. One is zero risk, the other has substantial risk, and substantial potential reward, neither of which is predictable.</p>
<p>And people who invested in Vegas and Antioch real estate in 2006 that has lost 50% of it&#8217;s value did not &#8220;easily beat&#8221; the 3% they could have made on CDs at the time. In fact, they got slaughtered, some of them have declared bankruptcy, and are in a world of misery.</p>
<p>So you might want to add a few caveats to your statements, SV Shopper, lest we think you have bad motives.</p>
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		<title>By: bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 21:55:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All I can say is that if you&#039;re an &quot;Investor&quot; buying &quot;Investment property&quot; in such godforsaken places like Vegas, Stockton, Sacramento, and others, then you truly belong in the Darwinian wood chipper.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All I can say is that if you&#8217;re an &#8220;Investor&#8221; buying &#8220;Investment property&#8221; in such godforsaken places like Vegas, Stockton, Sacramento, and others, then you truly belong in the Darwinian wood chipper.</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 20:47:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;That’s like giving birth to two identically retarded children that both manage mega-projects.&quot;

Indeed.  What are the chances of that?


&quot;Ahh, here we go again. Yet ANOTHER person on this blog who claims that investing in real estate is a grand idea over other forms of investment.&quot;

No, bob.  We have the same person - real estater - posting the same misunderstandings under a different name.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;That’s like giving birth to two identically retarded children that both manage mega-projects.&#8221;</p>
<p>Indeed.  What are the chances of that?</p>
<p>&#8220;Ahh, here we go again. Yet ANOTHER person on this blog who claims that investing in real estate is a grand idea over other forms of investment.&#8221;</p>
<p>No, bob.  We have the same person &#8211; real estater &#8211; posting the same misunderstandings under a different name.</p>
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		<title>By: bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 19:44:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt; If you got cash, investing in real estate easily beats the 1% you get on a CD.&lt;/i&gt;

Ahh, here we go again. Yet ANOTHER person on this blog who claims that investing in real estate is a grand idea over other forms of investment. First of all, if you buy outside of the Bay Area, there&#039;s a reason why those houses cost less: They are further away from the working areas. Secondly, those prices are still falling and if you buy now, your asset will actually be losing value for who knows? 1 or 2 more years? So the statement that investing in real estate versus even a CD because the CD would pay less is also wrong.

 Additionally , its simple econ 101 that stocks outperform real estate by a good margin. On average you will get anywhere from a 7-10% appreciation in stocks while the average in real estate is around 4%. Even in the prime of prime areas like Palo Alto, the return is only about 6%. So either way you cut it, stocks will beat the crap out of real estate. I&#039;ve repeated this numerous times because its true. But if others think they&#039;d rather invest in houses then go for it. Just realize you&#039;re not acting like the brightest bulb in the bunch when you do so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i> If you got cash, investing in real estate easily beats the 1% you get on a CD.</i></p>
<p>Ahh, here we go again. Yet ANOTHER person on this blog who claims that investing in real estate is a grand idea over other forms of investment. First of all, if you buy outside of the Bay Area, there&#8217;s a reason why those houses cost less: They are further away from the working areas. Secondly, those prices are still falling and if you buy now, your asset will actually be losing value for who knows? 1 or 2 more years? So the statement that investing in real estate versus even a CD because the CD would pay less is also wrong.</p>
<p> Additionally , its simple econ 101 that stocks outperform real estate by a good margin. On average you will get anywhere from a 7-10% appreciation in stocks while the average in real estate is around 4%. Even in the prime of prime areas like Palo Alto, the return is only about 6%. So either way you cut it, stocks will beat the crap out of real estate. I&#8217;ve repeated this numerous times because its true. But if others think they&#8217;d rather invest in houses then go for it. Just realize you&#8217;re not acting like the brightest bulb in the bunch when you do so.</p>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 19:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; Haha – Looks like SV Shopper is as dumb as RE. How could that possibly be true?!

That&#039;s like giving birth to two identically retarded children that both manage mega-projects.

No offense to the retarded children.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; Haha – Looks like SV Shopper is as dumb as RE. How could that possibly be true?!</p>
<p>That&#8217;s like giving birth to two identically retarded children that both manage mega-projects.</p>
<p>No offense to the retarded children.</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 19:06:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haha - Looks like SV Shopper is as dumb as RE.   How could that possibly be true?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha &#8211; Looks like SV Shopper is as dumb as RE.   How could that possibly be true?!</p>
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		<title>By: Pralay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pralay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 18:58:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;ay area folks are shopping outside the region because inventory is tight in the area right now, and there is no relief in sight.&lt;/i&gt;
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And no relief in sight for this &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.redfin.com/CA/Burlingame/2805-Arguello-Dr-94010/home/1121236&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;poor seller&lt;/a&gt; either. This guy bought &quot;touch the sky&quot; home in 2005 for $1.252K. Can&#039;t afford to sell less. So he keeps listing since September 2008. Although he can touch the sky from this property, but after price started going downhill the owner cannot touch his 2005 purchase price anymore.

But, but, SV &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.burbed.com/2009/07/24/san-jose-avoided-the-housing-bubble/#comment-48993&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;wife-big-on-education&lt;/a&gt;&quot; Shopper said that inventory is tight, so it got to be true. That means &quot;touch the sky&quot; property is not part of the inventory.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>ay area folks are shopping outside the region because inventory is tight in the area right now, and there is no relief in sight.</i><br />
&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>And no relief in sight for this <a href="http://www.redfin.com/CA/Burlingame/2805-Arguello-Dr-94010/home/1121236" rel="nofollow">poor seller</a> either. This guy bought &#8220;touch the sky&#8221; home in 2005 for $1.252K. Can&#8217;t afford to sell less. So he keeps listing since September 2008. Although he can touch the sky from this property, but after price started going downhill the owner cannot touch his 2005 purchase price anymore.</p>
<p>But, but, SV &#8220;<a href="http://www.burbed.com/2009/07/24/san-jose-avoided-the-housing-bubble/#comment-48993" rel="nofollow">wife-big-on-education</a>&#8221; Shopper said that inventory is tight, so it got to be true. That means &#8220;touch the sky&#8221; property is not part of the inventory.</p>
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