May 23, 2010

PTA, Bunch of Others Sue State of California

And now, may I present a guest post.  Take it away, madhaus.  Why thanks, madhaus, don’t mind if I do.

Sacramento Bee: Education Coalition Sues California Over School Funding

California’s system for funding public schools is irrational, unstable and in need of overhaul, a lawsuit filed Thursday asserts, and prevents 6 million students from receiving the education they are entitled to under the state Constitution.

The lawsuit, filed by a coalition of students, parents and education groups against the governor and the state, puts California on a growing list of states slapped with what lawyers call "adequacy" suits

Thirty-three states have faced adequacy lawsuits, in which plaintiffs argue that a state does not give schools enough money to achieve that state’s academic standards. In most cases, experts said, the states have lost in court and been forced to come up with more funds and a new way of paying for schools.

image Now that’s the American way.  Something’s broken?  Sue ‘em.  The lead plaintiff in this case, Robles-Wong v. California, is a junior at Alameda High School.  Yay, Bay Area, We’re #1!  We’re #1!  And despite a press conference in Sacramento, the suit itself was filed in Alameda County.

A spokesman for the group noted California had some of the highest educational standards in the country, with some of the lowest funding rates.  Yeah, take that, New Jersey!  We do more with less!  We’re the best at writing standards, and the best at failing to meet them!  Boo-yah!

The article also described the method of determining each California school district’s unique funding as “a complicated funding formula.”  This is akin to noting that the General Theory of Relativity is “kind of tough,” as there are only four people in the entire world who understand how the state school funding algorithm actually works.  One of them has an unlisted phone, one refused to respond to repeated requests for comment, and the other two were driven insane by the process of mastering it.

Okay, assuming you were actually reading any of this, by now you’re saying, madhaus, you are just making that part up.  Am not.  See?

San Jose Mercury News: Schools, PTA sue California over education funding

For most of California’s roughly 1,000 school districts, the state budget crisis has caused per-student funding to fall for two years. But the complaint reaches beyond current cutbacks. For decades, California schools have budgeted according to a complicated funding mechanism determined by multiple laws and court rulings and resulting in unpredictable and different per-student amounts for each district. For example, in 2008-09, Evergreen Elementary School District in San Jose received $7,787 per student, but Palo Alto Unified received $14,214.

The suit contends that the state has neglected to do what the constitution requires: prioritize school funding.

See?  See?  “Complicated funding <miscellaneous noun>.”  Told you so.

Can’t get enough of this?  Read the lawsuit (PDF, 59 pages) by clicking here.

Comments (72) -- Posted by: madhaus @ 5:01 am

72 Responses to “PTA, Bunch of Others Sue State of California”

  1. Real Estater Says:

    Good news! Santa Clara County median price up 26.4% in April.

  2. Real Estater Says:

    Good news! Santa Clara County median price up 26.4% in April.

  3. maryjane Says:

    Well, madhaus, thanks for ruining my Sunday morning. It makes for pretty grim reading. The school is expected to be all things to all children and our state government is a dysfunctional mess. If I had young children I would think long and hard about just how special California was and if I would be willing to put up with schools that couldn’t provide a decent education just so I could enjoy that specialness. If I have the option of leaving my children a house in PA or giving them a world-class education guess what I’d pick.

  4. Real Estater Says:

    >>If I have the option of leaving my children a house in PA or giving them a world-class education guess what I’d pick.

    No need to pick. If you have one, you have the other.

  5. Real Estater Says:

    One of the reasons money gets wasted in this country is due to frivolous lawsuits. We need to stop these jokers from draining more money away from our education system.

  6. maryjane Says:

    This lawsuit seems far from frivolous. Someone has to fix the school system in CA and I’m afraid that it’s not going to get done until the courts intervene.

  7. maryjane Says:

    RE – you may be happy with your school district but what is life going to be like when 70% of high schoolers don’t graduate from high school. That’s going to impact your quality of life no matter how hard you try to insulate yourself from it. This attitude of ‘I’ve got mine’ may work in the short run but personally I’m very pessimistic about the future of CA.

  8. Real Estater Says:

    More evidence foreigners are bringing boat loads of money to the Bay Area:

    In bustling Oakland Chinatown, an office full of empty cubicles sits ready to greet executives — all of them newly arrived immigrants who have paid as much as $500,000 for the privilege of living here.

    “It’s amazing. Maybe they really have that much money to spend.”

    In Palo Alto, a new California Energy Investment Center in Palo Alto will focus on the solar panel manufacturing and installation industries, and in Santa Clara, the Green Energy Regional Center will focus on investments in alternative energy technologies, mostly in the Central Valley.

  9. Real Estater Says:

    maryjane,

    From what I can see the school systems here are still very competitive. There are tons of high caliber kids out there. You should know, since your kids applied to Ivy League. If anything, gaining admission to a prestigious university is harder than when you went to school.

  10. maryjane Says:

    #7 – I have immigrants living on either side of me. They make more money than you’ll ever dream of making and their children are in private schools.

    #8 – I have to confess, I didn’t use the public schools for my children.

  11. Real Estater Says:

    >>I have immigrants living on either side of me. They make more money than you’ll ever dream of making and their children are in private schools.

    I think that’s great, because they are one of the reasons why housing prices here are well supported.

  12. maryjane Says:

    There will always be affluent pockets but when the revolution comes, my friend, your neighborhood will be the first place they seek out. You can’t allow a large underclass to be created and not expect to deal with the consequences. If you don’t educate ALL the children the gap between the haves and have nots will only continue to grow and you’ll be living in an armed camp and ultimately supporting a large portion of society. You can pay now or pay later but you’re going to have to pay.

  13. SEA Says:

    Real Estater-

    “>>If I have the option of leaving my children a house in PA or giving them a world-class education guess what I’d pick.

    No need to pick. If you have one, you have the other.”

    More crazy logic.

    So now all areas where a world-class education may be obtained shall be called PA? (Alternatively, I suppose, you might suggest that the only place in the world where a world-class education may be obtained is at a Real School in the Real RBA. Yes, that’s right, the rest of the entire United States is a third-world country.)

  14. Insecure Techie Says:

    Good news! Santa Clara County median price up 26.4% in April.
    —–

    Useless aggregate data. Median price is only one measure, subject to the mix of properties. Secondly, nobody cares if median price of Gilroy goes up.

  15. Insecure Techie Says:

    No need to pick. If you have one, you have the other.
    —–

    LOL! Considering the fact that a parent like Real Estater is unable to give anything positive to his kids, his only hope is his home will provide the same.

  16. Insecure Techie Says:

    So now all areas where a world-class education may be obtained shall be called PA?
    —–

    Damn! While PA school is providing “world class education”, they are getting displaced by immigrants. It got to be very hard life for “world class educated” students.

  17. SEA Says:

    Insecure Techie- It’s all about those suit cases of cash from Asia. Wonder if there are any world-class schools in all of Asia?

  18. maryjane Says:

    Does Real Estater even have kids? I ask because I get the feeling he thinks that all you have to do is plop your children down in the right school district and next thing you know they’re at Harvard. If CA education continues along this path even the best won’t be worth much. I’d be willing to bet that the main reason PA schools are so good is because you have a lot of academics who value education and look at the school system as providing the bare minimum for their children. The ‘enrichment’ the parents provide is probably at least as important. I bet there’s an awful lot of after school tutoring going on, not to mention music lessons, Kumon math on Saturday and summer trips to learn about the pyramids first hand.

  19. Real Estater Says:

    >>Alternatively, I suppose, you might suggest that the only place in the world where a world-class education may be obtained is at a Real School in the Real RBA. Yes, that’s right, the rest of the entire United States is a third-world country

    This is truly crazy logic. How does one come to the conclusion that saying PA offers good schools discredits schools elsewhere?

  20. Real Estater Says:

    Pralay says,
    >>Useless aggregate data.

    Yes, useless aggregate data month after month.

  21. SEA Says:

    maryjane- We all know that the only thing a good parent does is buy a Real PA house in the Real RBA.

    Is there anything to parenting beyond the real estate purchase? (And let’s not forget the nicety that real estate has no moving parts.)

  22. Real Estater Says:

    maryjane says,
    >>I get the feeling he thinks that all you have to do is plop your children down in the right school district and next thing you know they’re at Harvard.

    I really don’t know where you get your feelings from.

  23. SEA Says:

    Real Estater- “How does one come to the conclusion that saying PA offers good schools discredits schools elsewhere?”

    In regards to PA and good schools: “No need to pick. If you have one, you have the other.”

    So if you have a world-class school, then you have PA. So all world-class schools are located in PA.

    Thus the only place that world-class schools exist is PA. Now if PA is like the RBA, with little pockets here and there, then fine, PA has little enclaves throughout the world.

  24. Real Estater Says:

    Pralay says,
    >>LOL! Considering the fact that a parent like Real Estater is unable to give anything positive to his kids, his only hope is his home will provide the same.

    LOL. An impotent guy is commenting on how to parent.

  25. Real Estater Says:

    SEA,

    Go find a 3rd grader to argue with.

  26. SEA Says:

    Real Estater- Let me know when you graduate from the second grade.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iff

  27. nomadic Says:

    If you brush up on your logic and/or writing skills, you could save yourself the embarrassment of what you wrote in #3. Don’t blame the people here for your folly.

  28. Real Estater Says:

    SEA, nomadic (may I call you dic?),

    My basic assumption is that folks here have the basic intelligence to figure out which one leads to the other. Apparently, there are some exceptions.

  29. nomadic Says:

    RE, may I call you dumbass?

  30. Real Estater Says:

    dic,

    Where’s your Bay Area spirit?

  31. madhaus Says:

    Sorry for runing your morning, maryjane. I’m at Maker Faire and having a glorious day. Lots of kids here getting enrichment.

    I’ll be crabby about this later.

  32. anon Says:

    I think we can all agree that real estater is as vile and disgusting as anything could be.

  33. Alex Says:

    Gorgeous day outside. Just finished my barbeque. Enjoyed my steaks, chicken wings and pizza!

    And I come in to peek on you guys. Nothing has changed. Faux Estater is still an ass. LOL

    So much for my optimism.

  34. madhaus Says:

    And if something is a fact, you will hear it from everyone.

  35. madhaus Says:

    Translation of #27:

    I know I screwed up, but how mean of you guys to make fun of me. You jerks. I hate you all because you won’t let me in your club. Oh yeah? I’m better than you. I have a Porsche!

  36. nomadic Says:

    Ah, back for a little lunch after soaking up some of this gorgeous RBA weather. Hopefully RE has gone outside to blow the stink off of him. It’s good and windy out there.

  37. Insecure Techie Says:

    Yes, useless aggregate data month after month.
    —-

    Of course it is useless data. Just look at these two charts.

    Gilroy median: up from $454K to $464K.
    Palo Alto median: down from $1.64M to $$1.57M.

  38. Insecure Techie Says:

    An impotent guy is commenting on how to parent.
    —-

    First of all, I did not comment on “how to parent”. I commented on your thought that your home (not you) is taking the parents’ role for your kids.

    Secondly, how do you know that your kids are your biological children and you are not impotent? Did you do DNA test? How do you know that your “mate” of “high end of the spectrum” is not MATING with other when you are managing your multi-million dollar multi-timezone megaaaaaaaaaaa project at 2AM? If your “mate” is readhead, probably Alex got the job done. :)

  39. maryjane Says:

    I just got it! Has anyone noticed the similarity between Real Estater and Donald Trump? Everything is ‘top of the line’ and ‘first class’. He’s so full of class that he needs to keep reminding people just how classy he and everything he touches is.

    Tell Alex to be careful – RE IS the redhead!!!

  40. Alex Says:

    LOL Look at how this redhead thing has turn into a perversion. hahhaha

    I mentioned it once in tongue-in-p**sy manner and someone decides to perpetuate it. Of course, I didn’t hesitate to participate.

  41. madhaus Says:

    Some of us redheads aren’t too happy to be compared to realtards, either. It was bad enough being called terrorists.

  42. SEA Says:

    Real Estater- Let me know when you graduate from the second grade.

  43. Insecure Techie Says:

    Has anyone noticed the similarity between Real Estater and Donald Trump?
    —–

    All of Trump’s bravado without any of the accomplishment.

  44. Insecure Techie Says:

    Real Estater- Let me know when you graduate from the second grade.
    —-

    He will, once he learns how to spell “Manhatten”, “summar”, “sky scrapers” and “exercept” correctly. :)

  45. DreamT Says:

    #23 – Is that also your opinion of Rousseau’s work?

  46. Real Estater Says:

    Can we all get along? I’m seeing a familiar pattern here. A few “hit men” make attacking remarks against me (and others who take similar positions), and when RE responds, he becomes the bad guy.

    My guess is that some of the immigrants here still have trouble dealing with different opinions.

  47. Alex Says:

    My guess is that some of the immigrants here still have trouble dealing with different opinions.

    You tried to pull a Rodney King and then, in the same breath, posted another inflammatory remark.

    Obviously, you never learn.

  48. Tuno Says:

    there have been a million studies done on the effect of school quality: it has very little effect. parental expectations are by far the best predictor of how kids do. which is pretty rotten for kids whose parents have low expectations.

    money spent on education also is largely irrelevant. there is no correlation between dollars spent per student and outcome (there are loads of schools in New England and the Midwest that spend virtually nothing and have great results). again, alas, parental expectations rule.

    around the edges, more money helps in school systems where the kids are really poor.

    there should be more special programs for the *parents*.

  49. Mr. B Says:

    Obviously the teacher’s union needs a funding upgrade STAT so they contribute more money to the Democratic party lest some lose their jobs and the gravy train stops.

    As for going into debt to send your kid to a “world class university” – they’ll just move in with some boy, get HIV and learn to smoke dope anyway. So what’s the point?

  50. Real Estater Says:

    Alex,

    We can all see what a great role model you are.

  51. anon Says:

    He is clearly a more decent human being than you…

  52. SEA Says:

    Real Estater- “Can we all get along?”

    When will you graduate from the second grade? After that it’s much more likely that we can all get along.

  53. Real Estater Says:

    SEA,

    I figure you have graduated. Go ahead and count up how many posts in this thread is someone attacking RE vs. the other way around. Math is hard, but not that hard, right?

  54. maryjane Says:

    Expectations are everything. If you accept excuses for why homework isn’t done – or even worse, pass them along to the teacher – you’ve lost the battle. I think mandatory parenting classes would be a good start.

  55. nomadic Says:

    Has anyone noticed the similarity between Real Estater and Donald Trump?

    As a matter of fact, maryjane, yes. :-)

  56. nomadic Says:

    oops, sorry. I should’ve known Pralay would be a step ahead.

  57. nomadic Says:

    Regarding today’s article, it’s only a little surprising that the ACLU or a similar organization hasn’t already sued on behalf of some of the poorest districts. Sure, madhaus is upset that Cupertino gets less funding than PA, but at least they have the resources to do their fund-raising to fill in the gaps. What about the poor districts with poor, apathetic parents?

    However, I agree with Tuno that more money doesn’t translate to better results.

  58. madhaus Says:

    Want to know what item best correlates with SAT scores? It isn’t first year of college GPA, high school GPA, number of AP exams taken or anything like that.

    It’s parental income.

    Everything maryjane said in #17 is true:

    If CA education continues along this path even the best won’t be worth much. I’d be willing to bet that the main reason PA schools are so good is because you have a lot of academics who value education and look at the school system as providing the bare minimum for their children. The ‘enrichment’ the parents provide is probably at least as important. I bet there’s an awful lot of after school tutoring going on, not to mention music lessons, Kumon math on Saturday and summer trips to learn about the pyramids first hand.

    If you buy Judith Rich Harris’ theory that there are exactly two factors that influence children’s personality and behavior (genetics and peer group), then you should spend as much as you can to get your kids a “successful” peer group. The education you get from Palo Alto schools is almost irrelevant. What matters is most of those kids come from families who expect them to go to college. And a summer trip to Paris or Morocco or Beijing isn’t exactly going to hurt.

  59. Alex Says:

    http://www.mercurynews.com/bay-area-news/ci_15148540?source=rss

    Congrats to these parents. They saved the teachers for another year. LOL

    Faux Estater blabbed:
    Alex,

    We can all see what a great role model you are.

    I don’t pretend to be a role model. Nor average tech guy.

  60. madhaus Says:

    Regarding today’s article, it’s only a little surprising that the ACLU or a similar organization hasn’t already sued on behalf of some of the poorest districts. Sure, madhaus is upset that Cupertino gets less funding than PA, but at least they have the resources to do their fund-raising to fill in the gaps. What about the poor districts with poor, apathetic parents?

    Can I call you dic? ;) no? Now I’m mad.

    I agree with you. Remember my suggestion that everyone in Palo Alto should buy a house in East Palo Alto and fix it up? Similarly, I think everyone in a wealthy school district should adopt a school from a struggling district, and give the same amount of money to both of them. Even better, give more money to the struggling district.

    Yes, I would be willing to do this, even if more money doesn’t necessarily make a difference. It has a lot more impact in a district which has none of the advantages Palo Alto or Cupertino or similar districts have.

    Interesting that the Murk article compared Evergreen Elementary ($7,787) to Palo Alto Unified ($14,214.)
    Evergreen is an elementary district, and they get less funding per child because, well, duh, elementary classes don’t have the expenses high schools do. PAU includes two high schools. The high school district for Evergreen Elementary is East Side Union, which spends spends $8641 per student. Yeah, still nowhere near PAU.

    Damned Board of Equilazation needs to do some equalizing.

  61. Insecure Techie Says:

    My guess is that some of the immigrants here still have trouble dealing with different opinions.
    —–

    That guess is wrong. Actually the native Californian is having hard time play victim and attacker at the same time. A tough role to act.

  62. Insecure Techie Says:

    Math is hard, but not that hard, right?
    —-

    Indeed! Math is hard. :)

  63. Insecure Techie Says:

    I’m seeing a familiar pattern here. A few “hit men” make attacking remarks against me (and others who take similar positions), and when RE responds, he becomes the bad guy.
    —-

    So every time Real Estater sees “familiar pattern”, he responds familiar way and then becomes “the bad guy”. Does not sound like a very bright person. But at least he lives among “smart people”.

  64. Real Estater Says:

    Pralay,

    Is this how you express your bay area spirit?

    how do you know that your kids are your biological children and you are not impotent? Did you do DNA test? How do you know that your “mate” of “high end of the spectrum” is not MATING with other when you are managing your multi-million dollar multi-timezone megaaaaaaaaaaa project at 2AM? If your “mate” is readhead, probably Alex got the job done.

  65. anon Says:

    Here in the bay area we don’t like pretenders and phonies. Go back to where you came from, RE. You will never be accepted or respected here.

  66. Insecure Techie Says:

    Is this how you express your bay area spirit?
    —-

    Well, I am just asking a few questions. Didn’t you notice the question marks in my comment?

  67. madhaus Says:

    Come on, express your Bay Area spirit by using the English language correctly!

    Incorrect: LOL. An impotent guy is commenting on how to parent. (#23)

    Correct: I just got it! Has anyone noticed the similarity between Real Estater and Donald Trump? Everything is ‘top of the line’ and ‘first class’. He’s so full of class that he needs to keep reminding people just how classy he and everything he touches is. But nobody believes his impotent floundering. (#38)

    Incorrect: Secondly, how do you know that your kids are your biological children and you are not impotent? (#37)

    Correct: Secondly, how do you know your kids are your biological children and you are not infertile? Does your wife cheat on you because you’re impotent too? Alex?

  68. Real Estater Says:

    Pralay,

    How long have you been on Burbed, 3 years maybe? What’s your excuse for having the same outcome as Bob?

  69. Insecure Techie Says:

    What’s your excuse for having the same outcome as Bob?
    —-

    I thought I answered it already. Want a different answer?

  70. SEA Says:

    Real Estater- “I figure you have graduated.”

    While that may be true, I generally don’t trust the work of a second grader.

    As far as counting the posts, so many second graders think the world revolves around them. Do you really think I care about these things?

    That said, I guess there are a few “tire kickers” here. I can only hope that as a third grader things will be far more exciting, not such a bore.

  71. bob Says:

    More evidence foreigners are bringing boat loads of money to the Bay Area:

    In bustling Oakland Chinatown, an office full of empty cubicles sits ready to greet executives — all of them newly arrived immigrants who have paid as much as $500,000 for the privilege of living here.

    Did you even read the article? The part at the bottom that showed the total number of EB5 immigrants nationwide? As in around 4,000 total? whoa nelly. Quit grasping at silly stories. By the way. Did you see the DOW today? DOW Soars!

    What’s your excuse for having the same outcome as Bob?

    Not sure what you mean. Do you mean that Parlay is as financially successful? That he saves lots of money and doesn’t blow it on useless crap? Well, I don’t personally know Parlay so I can only guess.

  72. docrawfood@gmail.com Says:

    TO HELL WITH satan! , JESUSCHRISTBLESSED@YAHOO.COM


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